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Fuel Rail (smell of gas)


VFRDYLAN
01-13-2004, 03:21 PM
In another post, I noted that I had a smell of fuel and it was suggested that I check my fuel rail. That was the problem. There was a pinhole in the line between cylinder 8-6. So now I need a new fuel rail. The dealer price is insane.

Anyone know a place to get this part at a reasonable fee or any group discounts.

Do I also need a pressure regulator if I get the new rail?

Thanks

Dylan

BKVic
01-13-2004, 04:41 PM
NewGMparts.com lists the fuel rail for the 96-97 Aurora as having a dealer price of $203.83 but sales it for $152.87. Is that better then your price? You will find it under the mechanical sectiond and then under fuel system, fuel induction, and then fuel injection. For the 95 Aurora they list the dealer price as $292.15 and sale it for $219.11. For the 98-99 Aurora they list dealer price as $242.74 but sale it for $182.06.


BKVic

Indy8
01-13-2004, 07:06 PM
Get a new FPR if you are doing the rail job, only $40 or so....also, the new rail kit(if genuine GM)should be metal, not plastic.

jim56
01-16-2004, 01:40 PM
Get a new FPR if you are doing the rail job, only $40 or so....also, the new rail kit(if genuine GM)should be metal, not plastic.
The one I bought was GM from a dealer , and it was plastic. Did they change it?

Indy8
01-19-2004, 02:03 AM
Yes. It may be listed as an upgrade part number instead of a direct replacement number, but I understand they look pretty nice.

conundrum
01-21-2004, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=VFRDYLAN]In another post, I noted that I had a smell of fuel and it was suggested that I check my fuel rail. That was the problem. There was a pinhole in the line between cylinder 8-6. So now I need a new fuel rail. The dealer price is insane.

Anyone know a place to get this part at a reasonable fee or any group discounts.



Sorry that did not see this earlier. When I had a crack in one of the fuel rail lines I just cut the cracked hose off of the fuel rail and replaced it with a new fuel hose and then secured it with small hose clamps; I left the rest of the fuel rail alone. The fuel hose cost me 20 cent at ACE Hardware. I think that this has to be the most cost effective solution to your problem.

Indy8
01-21-2004, 06:53 PM
But that's half-ass.

oldsdad
01-21-2004, 09:53 PM
Indy yes it may be half-( l ) but as he said it is cost effective lol

Indy8
01-21-2004, 10:59 PM
Flash forward to hot weather this summer, flames streaming up the windshield.

conundrum
01-22-2004, 09:00 AM
But that's half-ass.


It maybe 1/2 ass, probably more like 7/8 ass but is .2/200 (approx.) or in other words 1/1000 as expensive as a new fuel rail. And if you are precise with your work on this job you probably will avoid the flames that Indy mentioned.

And actually if you really take a look at the material that those fuel rails are made of you will notice that they are an extremely hard, inflexible, and cheap plastic that seems to be very prone to breaks and cracks. The fuel (or hydrocarbon to be specific) resistant hoses that I bought at ACE appear to be much more malleable and resilient than the original material used on the fuel rails; they will last longer in my opinion.

Indy8
01-22-2004, 11:35 AM
You're right, the stock material is sad. Just keep an eye on those clamps. We don't want any owners infuego! The metal upgrade kit is the way to go, but last I heard they were backordered awaiting another production run. They were $180 at last check.

gippetto
01-31-2004, 10:45 AM
I also had a pinhole in the fuel rail of my '95 and the shop I brought it to replaced the single plastic hose instead of the entire assembly. He said it wasn't worth the GM price for the rail. I agree, and it really isn't a half assed fix. The fuel pressure rating of the rubber hose is quite adequate and the ends were double worm clamped. The hose was routed down and wire tied to the original bundle and looks proper.

We are not talking a restoration vehicle here.

jim56
01-31-2004, 10:54 AM
I also had a pinhole in the fuel rail of my '95 and the shop I brought it to replaced the single plastic hose instead of the entire assembly. He said it wasn't worth the GM price for the rail. I agree, and it really isn't a half assed fix. The fuel pressure rating of the rubber hose is quite adequate and the ends were double worm clamped. The hose was routed down and wire tied to the original bundle and looks proper.

We are not talking a restoration vehicle here.
Yea, thats what I did when mine first leaked, and it held fine, but then a month later it started leaking in another spot. I figured i needed to either
strip all the plastic off and replace it with hose or just replace it. I replaced it, though I wonder if in the long run I wouldnt have been better off to just fix the whole thing with hose..

gippetto
01-31-2004, 11:32 AM
I think its a crap shoot. GM selects materials for making production runs for zillions of parts. The material is probably OK for the application but there is always a chance of a bug.
My repair is about 6 monthes old and no other problems. I'll just keep an eye on it.

jim56
01-31-2004, 11:48 AM
Yea, I probably wouldnt have messed with it, but my wife was about to take off to Miami in it, and I didnt want to chance it breaking on her.

kidd94
02-26-2004, 02:29 PM
Get a new FPR if you are doing the rail job, only $40 or so....also, the new rail kit(if genuine GM)should be metal, not plastic.

"FPR" Where can I find this at? Helo.....

Indy8
02-26-2004, 02:46 PM
Fuel pressure regulator is the small dashpot thing between the fuel inlet line and the injector rail.

kidd94
02-26-2004, 02:50 PM
Fuel pressure regulator is the small dashpot thing between the fuel inlet line and the injector rail.

O, ok I thought FPR was an aftermarket manufacturer of Fuel Rails.

Do you know of any aftermarket rails that are less then the GM Price?

Indy8
02-29-2004, 02:28 AM
This is going to be a dealer only part.

ugsrich
03-22-2004, 07:48 PM
Does the annonced recall address any of this issue? Are the failing nylon tubes those that connect between each injector? What is the supposed recall "fix"?

Thanks

cmdrgala
03-23-2004, 10:58 AM
Hello My Fellow Aurora Drivers:

Ok, laught,but I find most of my parts for my Aurora on Ebay.
Many folks when they trash their car will part it out. 98% of the time I have had no problems. The parts are used, but will work on your Aurora.
You will seldom find an Aurora in a junk yard.

If you are looking for parts logon to Ebay

look up Olds Aurora
Oldsmobile Aurora

I need a new air compressor, got the whole kit for $ 300.00 plus shipping, included the other required parts. The same deal at a parts a parts store like Kragen was $ 675.00 rebuilt, the dealer wanted
$ 1400.00

The compressor was brand new.

I will post a picture shortly of my Olds, yes, in cases we are called geeks because we drive this beast of a car. But if you compare your Olds Aurora to a BMW or MB, the quaility control is better in our Olds that these high priced Panzer Tanks.:smokin:

SteVB
03-24-2004, 03:49 AM
ABOUT THE QUICK "HALF ASSED" REPAIR TO THE FUEL RAIL..... If you use FUEL INJECTION pressure hose, and FUEL INJECTION CLAMPS(available at NAPA in BALKAMP)which are solid band metal clamps, it WILL last, & won`t be half assed. you do have to drill out the screw hole a little bit on the clamps, but you are putting on high pressure parts that are made for this. i`ve done this 2 times on mine & they are holding fine & i just sprung another plastic hose leak, so i`m gonna have to do another repair until in May when GM starts performing the recalls with the METAL fuel rails. It`s still better than paying $400 or whatever, since GM is gonna eat it in a few months.

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