Well, is it any good?
It is 130+ pounds heavier than the Evo VI, and testers have said it isn't as raw:mad: Well, that is fine for everyday, but these cars are meant to be fast, and thrill the driver. It is faster around the Nurbrigring, but will it be as rewarding and fun to drive:confused:
I would like people to post and say their opinion. It is still an awesome car (and has more torque than before, and probably about 320 hp)
It does have cool limited slip differentials, which are computer controled, and should be awesome to drive.

BUT IS IT AS FUN AS THE EVO VI!!!

and if not, WHY????

COME ON!! 6 people have looked at this now, ANSWER GOOD DAMN IT!!!

well i just personallly like the evo VI more . Just a personal taste thing . http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0501/a06_EVO08.jpghttp://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0501/a06_EVO09.jpghttp://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0501/a06_EVO05.jpg
from scc

Evo VI in my opinion,,,, the car has the word DANGER spelled all over it, I mean honestly a 4 cylinder with 5.0 0-60mph, ohh and thats only the factory one,, u buy this car you modify it asap,, I my self love the Skyline more potential top speed but if I wanted something to piss off people on the road the Evo would sure make my smile :frog:

i must agree, the Evo VI has more then danger written all over it. :devil:

But then again the Evo VI has so many models and its so well known while everyone is getting used to the Evo VII and its still making its presence. :)

Also0, they Evo VII looks a little mundane. The Evo VI looks awesome!
And the Evo is way cheaper than a skyline, and more sleeper-like, and it can be used on all terrrain. Its awesome.

EVO VI for me. Does anybody have a pic of the EVO VII?

If your after Evo VII pics just visit my site.

Click Here (http://www.lancerz.cjb.net)

I like the look of the Evo VI better. They're killing it like they did to the Eclipse. Body wise

As it gets newer, it gets more refined and luxurious . But this adds weight, about 130 pounds, even though they lost weight elsewhere.

So it seems that everyone prefers the Evolution VI...so do I, possible reasons for this...

a) its been around the longest
b) it simply looks god damn good
c) it has more variations then a pack of M&M's
d) its been advertised worldwide and people still crave for it


But lets not push the newest member of the family out of the picture just yet!

the Evo VII does look good, not as good as the Evo VI i must admit, it has more of a 'futuristic' look towards it, but it still has style. Just like Chris said, it gets luxurious, but heavier...but why would Mitsubishi want the Evo VII stylish? they know for a god damn fact its a rally car and they still choose to make it look good, im assuming this is because of the STi's nice interior.

The Evo VII has great power and all the Newest Einstein gadgets the Evo VI didnt have, but that really doesnt matter.


My Verdict:

Evo VII: Nice
Evo VI: I want One

Well put:)

I think the VI had some neat things anyway. Didn't it have a titanium-aluminum turbine? Or did I read that, but it was saying what the new Evo would have? I dunno.

Eventually, it may get completely out of wack, then a complete redesign will make it all better. Lets just hope it doesn't come to that:D

Lets hope the Evo VII doesnt get out of wack..

if it does, it could be fatal.....just look at the new WRX hahaha :hehehe:

now that is what you call designing gone wrong :D

The Evo VII better stay the way it is and get some Model's added to it like the Zero-Fighter, and eXtreme (which would look cool ;))

Some extreme sport models would be nice, for true rally junkies.
AND BRING THE CAR OVER HERE, DAMN IT:bloated:

They said that the Evo VII is just as 'mad' as the VI, but it's just more refined on the interior. To them, the quality of the interior had gone up a lot from the VI. This hints that we'll be getting the VII in the US. If it's good enough for the Brits, it's prolly good enough for us.
Keep in mind that the VII is also based on a new, larger platform, so that's where a lot of that weight came from. Mitsubishi used a lot of weight saving methods to keep the weight gain down. They also tuned up the engine a bit to make up for it. Although the power stays at 276hp(:rolleyes:), the torque is up to 289lb-ft. Still not convinced that it's fast enough? Check the newest issue of Car with the new Mini on the cover. There's a head-to-head with the Evo VII against the new E46 M3. The VII handled better, instilled more driver's confidence(especially when the M3 had the traction constrol off.hehe), had more torque(Yeah, I was surprised too) and better acceleration. Oh, and it was 8k(in Brit pounds) cheaper too.
As for the looks, Car liked the VII a lot better. And for the US folks like me, it's better this way. The front bumper was one of the primary reasons it was never sold here. With those massive foglights, it never would have passed crash tests. Don't worry, the aftermarket will come up with something to fix it, I'm sure.

The great thing is, the 276hp Evo is what will compete with the 227hp WRX. This forces Subaru's hand, so that they have to sell their 276hp WRX STi just to keep up. But, Mitsubishi still has their Ralliart tuned Evos, like the Extreme and Zero Fighter, making aroud 340hp, so they'll stay on top. It's almost like the Ford/Chevy wars, huh?:sun:

Yes, it is on a newer chassis. And the nature of the engine means it MUST be making more than 276hp. Probably over 330, like the beemer engine. I will have to check out that CAR. What month was it?
I have heard rumors of it coming over here,and it can't come soon enough, IMO:)

And the Ford/Chevy wars are good: Better cars, lower prices:D

Im not too sure on this, but some Power quotes arent what there meant to be.. Mitsubishi tests the Evo's on performance fuel.. but when you actually buy one your using standard, so the power isnt as high as its said to be...

what do you all think?

Originally posted by Chris
Well, is it any good?
It is 130+ pounds heavier than the Evo VI, and testers have said it isn't as raw:mad: Well, that is fine for everyday, but these cars are meant to be fast, and thrill the driver. It is faster around the Nurbrigring, but will it be as rewarding and fun to drive:confused:
I would like people to post and say their opinion. It is still an awesome car (and has more torque than before, and probably about 320 hp)
It does have cool limited slip differentials, which are computer controled, and should be awesome to drive.

BUT IS IT AS FUN AS THE EVO VI!!!

and if not, WHY????

I can assure you that the every bit of the EVO 7 is more fun than the EVO 6, why? because I owned both. I have a TME 6.5, and the new E7, am I crazy or what? To be honest, both version has their specialty and are very interesting. For the E6, the torque band comes earlier, so you feels better in City, and highway. It is for ocassional freak. E7 though has the power band later (3500rpm), but the top end (5000-6000rpm ) certainly more thrill than the E6. E7 has "hard beyond believe" suspension, so for comfort, I will choose the E6. But for winding hill climbing, I can use the 3rd gear on the E7, all the way up, having fun with the tail happy monster ( switch to tarmac mode ), hearing the screaming tire and power slide when floor the gas. The seat on the E7, however is good to look at, but terrible to seat in. Perhapes I have too big an ass.

Originally posted by lancerz
Im not too sure on this, but some Power quotes arent what there meant to be.. Mitsubishi tests the Evo's on performance fuel.. but when you actually buy one your using standard, so the power isnt as high as its said to be...

what do you all think?


It is hard to say unless you put it on the test rig.
One thing I do realise is that the horse power figure doesn't truely reflects the driving feeling ( i.e. the thrust on your back ).

I have driven a Ferrari 355, in power figure, it has outclass the EVO, but in actual driving, it feels like a sheep, compare with EVO 7.

Another Brit car mag called EVO oddly enough, did a short little writeup on the Evo VII and said that it had already beaten the time of the Evo 6.5 Makkinen around the Nurburgring. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Makkinen the fastest(next to the Zero Fighter or Extreme) Evo VI you can get?

Don't worry guys, the Evo VII will do just fine. The WRX STi doesn't stand a chance.:D

The E7 chassis is just bigger n stronger, everything else is about the same if not better.
You can still make monster HP with aftermarkets. :evillaugh Changes in the rear susp. further enhances tire stickyness.

Besides, I think the 7 looks better.(I'm prolly the only one:huh: )
Here have a 2nd look, www.myevo.com/GE01_E7_C1.jpg

Both cars are awesome, and I hope to own one some day. The new one is faster (it better be!), by 18 seconds on the nurburgring.
I wish I hade both cars!!
I had just heard the new one wasnt as raw as the VI from several mags.
The VII has a harder ride, because it is bigger, so there is more flex, so their needs to be a stiffer suspension to keep up handling. I believe it to be more advanced than a WRX STi, but when I'm all grown up and they will let me drive them, I will decide myself.

Words cannot adequetly describe how I feel about these cars (my stomach feels warm, it aches a bit, and I WANT ONE!!)
patience, patience.....

Originally posted by stayinRice
The E7 chassis is just bigger n stronger, everything else is about the same if not better.
You can still make monster HP with aftermarkets. :evillaugh Changes in the rear susp. further enhances tire stickyness.

Besides, I think the 7 looks better.(I'm prolly the only one:huh: )
Here have a 2nd look, www.myevo.com/GE01_E7_C1.jpg

You're not the only one I like the look of the E7 over the E6. The E7 just looks better to me. I love the flare fenders on the E7.

I really hope Mitsubishi brings it to the US.

The Evo VI is probably the most popular Evo around. The Evo VII is still settling in. Maybe the E7 looks more family like, but i think its lost its agressive look. The Evo VI looks like a monster, the Evo VII looks like the quiet type, i dunno thats just me.

But I love all EVO's, as if they were my kids.
(not that i have any) :)

Does it matter which car is quicker around the Ring? How many of you do actually drive the car 10/10??

Just bought an EVO VI RS2. Didn't want to wait for the EVO VII as it is still unsure if it will be available LHD and if it does it's unsure if we get the GSR model that has all the goodies.

Besides the above I think the EVO VI looks more spectacular than the VII. Mitsubishi has done the same to the EVO as Subaru has done to the WRX. They just killed off the design and went for the broader audience.

Nico van Steen

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BLUE AND BLACK
[B]Does it matter which car is quicker around the Ring? How many of you do actually drive the car 10/10??

Just bought an EVO VI RS2. Didn't want to wait for the EVO VII .....
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I guess this is what really matters.....http://www.myevo.com/E7_Motor.jpg


I'll wait for the 7

:jump: it just looks better.

Originally posted by BLUE AND BLACK

Besides the above I think the EVO VI looks more spectacular than the VII. Mitsubishi has done the same to the EVO as Subaru has done to the WRX. They just killed off the design and went for the broader audience.

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i have to agree with that, the EVO VI has just superb design, its buldges and curves detail it, giving it that fierce look. The Evo VII has been made quieter.


P.S - Nico are you interested in displaying your car on my Lancerz website?? Click here for my site (http://www.lancerz.cjb.net)

anyone else with a Evo or Lancer interested? then just contact me and we'll organise something. (hosting car is free) :)

i still love the evo vi better than evovii eventhough the vii extreme have gone out by ralli art...

To those who prefer the VI over the VII, I think you have to see the Evo VII in its actual form and not from pics. I was a fan of the Evo from IV to VI till I set my eyes on the VII and I am now a proud owner of one blue VII. After driving a Bimmer 330, I thought I have made a wrong move cos the ride was hard. After getting used to it I felt more at home. Took the car to Sepang F1 circuit and immediately chased away all my doubts. The car handles like a Go Kart and its so precise. I took on a Porsche 911 and also a Skyline R34 not to mention a few WRX. It made me smile all the way back from Sepang to Singapore.

I personally think the EVo 7 looks good. Some might like the 6 more becasue of its looks that many are used to. The 7 has a different new style that is more calm but also has a FU look to it :) Bout time they change the look on the old VI. I have read several articles on the EVO 7 and article has said that it is just as fun and as mad as the 6. Even tho it is heavier they said it is still quicker from 0-60. Has more room and better interior. Only thing is that its slightly heavier, but thats about it. The new car is 30-50% more rigid, which is better due to handling. I have a japanese magazine based on the EVO VII. There is at least a dozen of fixed up Evo VII pictures. They alson have them with a built in navigation in the center console.
Hopefully I can scan some pictures soon and post it up here for you guys to see.
I currently live in Malaysia to work but I used to live in LA. America is still the shiits to live :) But anyways I test drove a Evo 7 a week ago and the dam thing is fuking fast! ALthough I only went as far as second gear I can feel the punch of the turbo kick. The stering feels light when you punch it. At the time I test drove it there was traffic where the grey import dealer was. So I only get to drive it in the back small roads and not on the main roads. Adding to that there were speed bumps! I wanted to go test it on the highway but I had to go back to work soon :(

The only versions they have is GSR. GS models would not be right because I think it doesnt have air condition? In Malaysia there is no winter and its summer all year long :( So without A/C theres no hope.

One thing that is bad about the car is that it doesnt come with a radio. I heard you can order one with a basic radio but I think its still not worth paying the extra for a crap stereo. There are four speakers in the car. 1 each by the front doors and 2 behind the back seat head rest. But look carefully and you will notice that there isnt any speakers inside those grills. Yes the car comes with no radio or speakers. Sad but true.

Maybe when it does go to the states it probably will come with some kind of radio. I havent heard of a car in the states that doesnt come with a stereo.

I willl be going to LA this winter vacation to visit my family and friends. When I return on the second week of January I will get a Silver 7. I already ordered one from the dealer. Its not a Mitsubishi dealer because they dont import these cars. Im getting it from a private dealer that sells high end cars and all import cars. They have white,blue,red black, yellow and silver. Still havent seen a charcoal color yet. What do you guys think is the best color? Just would like to know what are your personal taste on the colors? I will post some some pictures when I get my car.
IT has electric folding side mirrors.

You have to see the car to know how nice the car is! Pictures dont really show how mean the body lines and how detail it looks. Too bad there aint no Ralliart in Malaysia. No Evo Vii Extreme. The price of the car is 60,000 US dollars. I like the E46 M3 also but its no worth forking out 150K for it. Ill stick with the EVO 7 :):silly2: :smoker2:

choose blue...choose blue...
i think a blue evo is a good one...but the color doesn't matter as long as it is an evo..i will go for it...hehehe:flash:

Originally posted by Derek888


The only versions they have is GSR. GS models would not be right because I think it doesnt have air condition? In Malaysia there is no winter and its summer all year long :( So without A/C theres no hope.


Oddly enough I've just started using the AC and it is getting winter here.... In the summer I just buzz down the windows, but come cold, rain and snow the AC does wonders for you visibility.

Nico

I like the EVO VI better because it has better styling. I like the fog lamps (or the little hubs where they should be) and I am in love with the spoiler. If you were to change those things on the EVO VII I'd take that. But what it comes down to for me is that right now I can't have either car so they're both as forbidden, both as alluring. I'd take VI or VII in a heartbeat.

here is a pic from the Japanese mag

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Hi Derek888,

When are you getting your car? I'll be going up to Sepang again next month on the 14th. May be we could meet up.

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check out this air filter

Mod13

I will be getting it in 2 months...After New Years
Around Jan 2002. I saw your profile...your from Singapore :)
Hopefully ill meet up with you when I get my car. Well keep in touch?
What color did you get?

Derek888

I'm from Singapore. Make sure the car you're getting had an upgrade cluth pump coz there have been a recall on the earlier badge.

Mod13

Upgrade pump clutch? Why do you have problems with yours? How would I know if it has been upgraded? Can I check my looking at the production date on the serial number? Can you confirm which production month of the car not to get?

What color did you get?

Derek888

Theres no problem with mine. The earlier models, those before Sept if I remember correctly have been recalled. Check with your dealers they will help.

Mine is Blue.

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im bored cant sleep :)

go back to page 3..theres more pics

I think the Evo VII is hands down a better design. It looks more aggressive with it's new front lights scheme. The first time I saw the car I thought it looked like a great white shark just grinning. The inside may look a little toned down but it still looks appealing. Don't get me wrong on about the Evo VI it still is quite an attractive car, but the new shape of the VII is definetly heart stopping when seen in real life. It looks way more styled out then most of the civics and subarus I have seen so far even after the mods. Well that is my $.02. This is what the other cars are gonna see once they try to bring comp to the tar. :flamer: What they do when they see the VII :eek:

Lets here some more about your cars!!

Wow, I like that blue one..... Unfortunately the EVO VI LHD was never available in blue. Only white, silver and black.

Derek/Mod13,

You're both lving in the oriental part of the world, reknown for all the car gadgets. I'm looking for alternatives of a meterset: oilpressure, oiltemp and boost. My aim is to install them in the opening under the radio.

Been looking on the net for them, but couldn't find. Wonder if you have some mags with pictures of various options. If so, would it be too much trouble to scan them and email them?

my email: nico.van.steen@hccnet.nl

Thanks!

Nico

I have to say, the more and more I see the car (Evo VII) the more I like it. Especially seeing it in traditional white.

another white evo vii

Well I'd have to say I've been a bigger fan of the Lancer Evo V and VI. To me they look increadable. When I caught a glimpse of the Evo VII I thought to myself "Argh! What did they do to it!" But you know funny things have been happening to me. I look around at all the pics I've found now, and all those on the forum here, and suddenly the Evo VII is growing on me more and more everyday. I'm in the US, so chances of me ever owning an Evo V, or VI is probably non-existant, but happily I've really begun to warm up to the Evo VII. Now I wait and wait for the day I here news of them actually hitting the US turf. I've got lots of questions about it, just like everybody else waiting. Will it cost to much? How much horespower will it have? How many different versions of the Evo VII will there be here in America? Will that awesome front mounted intercooler survive the US safety standards?

Getting back to the looks, if they are anything like the Evo VII that is everywhere else, it should be a great hit in the US. When I start to think about it, all the stuff that makes the car is really what I'm interested in anyway. Turbo and intercooled four making more horsepower then alot of V-8's here in the states. All wheel drive, and should that active yaw control make it to the US version we're all set. Even if it's de-tuned, I want one. There is nothing else built that can compare.........well there is the Subaru WRX, but aack! It looks like a frog from the front end.

In the end to me, it's not all about looks anyway. True I don't want an ugly car, thats for sure, but when you looks at the things that go into a Lancer, and all the technology, thats surely what makes the car what it is. Looks are important though, and the new Evo VII looks as good to me as the Evo v and VI, even though I voted VI for looks over the VII. I can't wait for the day I wake up and hear some kind of good news......any kind of good news, that boldly states at least in the USA........ "Evo VII has landed!"

Later guys...

-Nathan-

When this EVO comes out as promised somehow, im all out ready to ditch my accord lol! (btw im new here, and i wanted to learn more about the evo making its way to the USA) :D

Hey if i can get an evo VII in the U.S. i'll deal with it being not as agresive looking, and a little heavier. The Evo VI had a really mean look to it, like if you saw it in your rear view you'd run for cover, the Evo VII looks more... Well not as cool. But like i said, if i can have it in the U.S. bring it.

Mod13 which part of the island are you staying in? I'm in Serangoon area. Maybe a meet up some day?

Cheers.

The only thing i did not like anout the Evo VI was the design. it was a bit ugly

Whoops. i ment the Evo VII

Hey, Derek888: where are you ? Are you in Taiwan or US?
I know EVO VII is selling LHD in Taiwan for about $50000. Is that true?

BTW, I heard that Taiwan highway police is going to use EVO VII as police car ( to chase those 400+ hp Impreza ):D

In the recent Taipei auto show, Mitsu presented a LHD EVO VII. Oh, how long do we have to wait ?:rolleyes:

the evo IV, V and VI looks a lot more aggressive and faster to me. the evo VII looks like a fox. also it looks like any other sedans out at the market. looks like an accord.
other than that the evo VII from what i heard is very good. i havent been in it yet but i can tell you the evo IV, V and VI's are very very fast. my uncle and i test drove it in japan and its crazy. acceleration is fast as a ferrari. and you can have 3 other friends with you.
because the before evo's are very fast, the evo VII should be better

Yuck, i f**king hate 5 spoke rims on EVO's!!!!!

well, any car as a matter of fact. 5 spokes suck.

aek5513

I am currently in Los Angeles for Christmas vacation. I lived in LA for about 24 years but I currently work in Kuala Lumpur. So I am leaving LA on Jan 9th :( I was born in Taiwan and only visit Taipei to see my parents. I was in Taiwan about 4 months ago but didnt see any Evolutions. Only saw some WRX. My friend in Taipei told me that Subarus only have the 225hp version? I believe its the one without the 280hp. If they have the EVo VII in Taipei for 50,000 then thats not bad. As far as I am concerned I dont know if they have the 280hp Evo Vii in Taiwan. In Malaysia they are going for about US$65,000 for a RHD EVO VII GSR. I rather have the Skyline GTR34 in Malaysia but its too expensive! 2000 model with 15,000km going for about US$100k :eek

They are actually selling these cars! See the link below:

http://tw.club.yahoo.com/clubs/EVOVII

However, I don't know if they can run leagally on the road.

BTW, I'll visit LA this week

:)

the evo vii is undeniably better performance wise, and that is all that matters, now if they would only make a zero fighter version of that, and i would goo my pants.

IMO, best EVOs are III-V.

5 is the best, not having driven one myself, but the specs say it is.
7 is the latest and greatest,
So lets combine the two, give the evo 7 the looks of the evo 5 and then, well it will be...well a frankin evo.

I think it is an excellent car, yet I much prefer the 5 or 6 better.

Hey its better than buying a honda:monkeypis

The EVO V is the fatest of them all.. Look at it, its fat. :mad:

The EVO VI is slim... and ooohhh yeah... ;)

The EVO VII is nice, but not my style.. its not "MONSTEROUS" enough.:confused:

I owned both an EVO VI TM edition and an VII. to be honest, the first few days when I get the VII, I still think that VI is better, after a while of test, the feeling had changed. The VII has much more blast over the top end. The only draw back is that top gear is taller, which creates a short "flat spot" at fast track condition. However, overall I still like the VII, it is by far more solid than the VI. From appearance stand point, I guess this is about getting use to, once you get use to the VII, you think that every bit and pieces on the VI looks weird. Had anyone notice that the rear wheel arc of the VI are jointed together with Hot melt stick.

Love the name, hehe. Anyway, it had a "Trackday Car of The Year" comparison, and the Evo VII RS Sprint was in it. They got a 0-60 of only 4.4 seconds, and that model still only has the standard '276hp.'

I dunno how fast the Evo VI is, but that's pretty good for the VII considering it weighs a bit more.

Hey lancerz!!

That clip you have on your sitwe with the Evo IV and the Supra where did you that :confused:

Do you know where that race took place ??

I just wanted to let you all know they are not making the evo 7 in america. they are making the evo 8. i know this because i work at Mitsubishi Motors.

:flipa: peace, dsm's kick f**** ass:bandit:

Well performance wise the evoVII is better in my opinion, even though its detuned it doesn't take much up the hp on it. Driving wise,performance wise its the car i would prefer. Although my favorite lancer based on looks is the Tommi Makinin Evo6.5, that car looks damn good with its fenders bumpers and red paint. :cool:

Guys I dont think the EVO VII is ANY GOOD I changed my mind I thought it was a good car I preffer the VI over this car ,,,

Did anyone see where it stands in the WRC rallys ??? like before last or something ,, Leading the charts are Citreon, Pegot and Subaru.. the Mitsubishi EVO VII is not doing so well unlike its old brothers.

Didn't Tommi Makkinen switch teams?

VQuick

Yes the dude is driving for Subaru now ,, and I think at the 7th potion the drivers title not doing too good. 4x champ needs to get back to the Mitsubishi EVO's man not the VII heheh

Well in my opinion i believe that most rally cars have advanced enough to justify that the driver and his crew is the main responsibility to why manufacturers lose thier titles. Suburu isn't even doing as great as it did before and neither is mitsubishi ofcourse and i don't think its becuase of thier cars. The Evo's keep getting better year after year and so do the imprezas. The EvoVII has a stiffer chassis than any other evo ever released, its drivetrain is also alot more advanced than the past. And in rally, luxury and weight isn't an option anyway, they're stripped to the bones and highly tuned for torque and hp at every course, not to mention that they almost always have a few of the identical cars at hand if one breaks down. Tommi knows that its really the drivers responsibility and not really the manufacturer if he loses and since subaru probably paid him a hell of alot more to join than mitsubishi did then why not go with subaru? Yeah the evoVII is bigger than the past evo's but the impreza is also bigger than its predeccesors also and they're both alot more advanced than the older ones they replaced. Take a look at all the manufacturers and every single one has a competitive rally car, its unlike years ago when it wasn't even an equal playing field. It used to be (after the deltas) that if u weren't driving an Evo or Impreza u weren't gonna win but now its not like that.

Originally posted by esco
not to mention that they almost always have a few of the identical cars at hand if one breaks down.


Ha! Tell that to them next time they swap out a gearbox and try and replace a turbo or head gasket in 20 minutes at service. No extra cars: You break it, then go home. I have yet to see a real race that lets you change cars halfway through.

Don't get me wrong here, i didn't mean it as in "lets call up my backup and i'll be up in running in a minute", I mean't they always have more than one car that they rally with, thier does that clear it up?, cuz some people i've talked to actually thought that they rallied with one single car for the entire season, i was like hell no! they have a crew and a couple of cars.:spit:

Anyway my point was i think that rally cars have gotten so advanced and the playing field is alot more equal that it takes more than a great car to win the race.

hey the evoVII has gotten more votes cuz i think people prefer the advancement of the new evo, but by looks alone I think more people would prefer the older evo's. I still can't get my mind off that tommi makinin edition evo6.5 though, that thing looks so tight. Has everyone one seen the EvoVII with the "Hyper" body kit?(its been out for a while now) Damn does that thing look hot! we gotta put some side by side pics of the tommi evo6.5 and the evo7 "hyper" and let people decide what looks better.

Well, this is quite a delay, but yes, you're right. Usually, they change cars for the next race, so they are better suited for the tarmac of Spain or the deserts of Kenya.

personally i would take the VII over the VI anyday and i have a list of reasons why. although the VI has it's variations and can be tuned like a mofo VII also has the same thing, and as far as it looking bland i like that because if you have an aggressive car then most people don't want to race you. kind of like if someone pulls in a ferrari enzo and revs the engine you will say fuck that but there could be a honda just as fast and you still would get your ass kicked. bozz, jun, and monster are out there working miracles for the car as far as tuning and aerodynamics etc. another thing you guys might have heard of is the extreme-s package that you can buy your evo vii with, and with numbers like 367(3900)/393lb(5000) the evo vii to me is a much better choice especially since the tuning is official and professionally done. i would like to add that is without fuel injectors,pumps, or new turbo or any major things etc.... as far as you guys who are all about style there's always the puma kit or the monster kit that make the evo vii look intimidating and amazingly gorgeous. let's not forget about the updated ram air and vents as the evo vii has better heat evacuation too. while i love the VI i'm sorry boys the VII is pissing on its grounds and marking it's territory, especially since mitsu has wrx on its ass with the S202 rex. all in all i think the VII has grown even though it has gained weight so i'll take one to go :D

i personally own a Evolution VII and i think it's sorta like a toy car and i drift alot with it and abuse it more than you should but the newly designed brembo's it has halt's the car to a complete stop it's also very fun when you do some donut's with it.i would suggest this car to everyone i mean it look's great and is the best car i've ever had and i would probably pick it over a ferrari anyday but certainly not my gtr's.:smoker2:

The British magazine Japanese Performance tested an Evo VII(when it was new) against an Evo 6.5 Makkinen. The VII makes '276hp' and the Makkinen is supposed to be making 330hp.
They tested 0-60mph for both cars, and the results were interesting. The Makkinen was lower at 4.4secs, but the VII still made it to 60mph in 4.5secs.
If the Makkinen had 330hp and less weight than the VII, but was only .1 second faster, how much power is the VII really making?? I know that the UK gets an Evo VII model called the FQ300 that has 305hp, but they won't say what the standard Evo VII produces.:mad:

the evovii posts low hp figures, partially because it wants ot make an easier transition into the united states market, the rumored number is around 300 hp, but htat is not to dismiss the 6.5, because .1 secs is alot for 0-60

Hi,

Just found this forum today! Interesting to see what Ideas people have on the new Evo VII. I have owned one since sept. 01. I find it breath taking. Before I bought it I looked and drove a number of EVO VI but only drove one EVO VII. I found the VII alot better at cornering and to me there was no noticable difference in performance. Braking is slightly better in the VII too.

Moving to the EVO from a Lotus Esprit V8 (3.5L twin turbo) I felt I needed a little more power than the standard 280bhp so I fitted a Ralliart sport ECU, HKS Racing Suction Kit, HKS Super Drager Exhaust System with De-Cat pipe and a HKS twin plate paddle clutch (HKS SUPER CLUTCH). The car is now pushing out about 350BHP with an amazing 0-60 and a top speed that would put me behind bars!! Torque is gut wrenching. The clutch is unbelievable, they say it can handle up to 600bhp!! and you can spin all four wheels on dry tarmac without any slippage whatsoever.

If anyone is debating weither to buy a 6 or a 7 I personally would say 7. Another plus factor is that the 7 is alot more rare.

Summary! The EVO VII is a real life playstation 2 plus alot more!

To all those ppl comparing the EVO to STI, why the hell are u doing that? Name one comparison where the STI has come close to the EVO?
EVO = better engine (easier to modify), better brakes and better driveline ACD AYC.
Sti understeers like a bitch and cant handle at all compared to the EVO. Try and find a WRX in japan, u cant because no one likes them. To quote the president of HKS "we give no Fu(k for subaru".
The EVO is the King.

y did makinen switch to scoobies if evos are so good?

Mate, we are talking about cars. Drivers really dont care what team they drive for, they just go to whoever pays them more money. Can u imagine makinen going "subaru is a much better company, i think i'll ask them for a job."???? No! They approached him with a LOT of money!
UR remark has nothing to do with the EVO vs the STi.
In japan evo has ALL those things that I have mentioned better than the STi and heres the BIG one, it costs less!
The japanese ppl have not embraced the impreza as they have the evo or the skyline, coz they are an inferior make. Simple.

i dont think makinene would switch only for the money, he will not drive a piece fo shit just because they give him alot of money, because u seem to neglect the fact that a racers goal is to win races, so if he would not switch to a far inferior automobile if he valued his career. the sti is a great car and right now in rally racing it is more successful than the evo. On paves roads the evo may be better, but it is getting too big and bulky for the race

too heavy? The WRX is the same weight and the evo has a far superior chassis. WHo is driving the mitsubishis? No one really special. It is more about the team and driver than the car in rallies.
And makkinen would only have left for money, pure and simple.
He was going just as well in the evos as he is now in the wrxs.
This has nothing to do with the road car tho.
Rent any jap comparison vcd and u will see the evo has been hands down better than the sti ever since 92 when the first evo came out.
fact, wrx's are considered crap in japan. Only outside countries have embraced the wrx when there has been no access to better cars such as the GTR or EVOS.
And u guys only got the wrx in 2000 didnt u. haha, just in time for the ugly one!

Another thing.... the Impreza World Rally Car differs GREATLY from the road going WRX. The Evo 7 is alot closer in every aspect to the EVO 7 WRC than the Impreza WRX is to the Impreza WRC.

I had an impreza WRX before the evo 7 and believe me, there is absolutly no comparison. The EVO out shines the impreza by miles!!

The Subaru suffers from bad understeer when you try to accelerate around tight corners. The Evo just turns even tighter as you put the boot down... As if its on rails.

I've noticed every person here who has claimed to have driven both evo6 and evo7 prefers the 7....doesn't that tell you something? don't listen to the shallow bitches chasing after the evo6 due to its looks who haven't even driven the evo7, you can always get a kit or even design a kit yourself if it means that much to you. evo7 is superior in every way in my opinion. it doesn't look insanely fast, so you'll get more challenges...even though it is insanely fast. who cares if it weighs 130 pounds more than the 6 if it's still faster. that's the goal of weight reduction right? go faster ya bitch, get an evo7.

and all you little ladies complaining about the WRC......are you racing in it? are you so empathetic that you can actually feel makkinen's thoughts? fuck off with saying he joined subaru purely for money. you didn't call the guy the day after and ask him why he did it, did you? if you did I'm sorry, if you didn't fuck off. don't be such an assuming little bastard. I personally don't give a shit. mitsu will come across some young driver with potential and he'll be even better than makkinen over time. and then subaru might offer him tons of money and he might accept, but that's not for me to tell because I don't know him and I'm not an assuming little bastard. evo7's are the shit....evo8's......well I'm sure they could help the emissions with a little more time put into developing the computer for it, so they're just being lazy bitches and semi-screwing because they don't want to wait to start taking american dollars.

Anyway, this is my first post, hoped you little whiney women liked it. I'm joining the air force, I'm getting an evo8 in 2004/5 and putting 20-25k into it right away. I'm going to be the fastest thing on the street. I will eventually be faster than that street legal supra I read about that does very high 8's, I'm 18 years old right now. I'll be making 130k my third year in the AF, a lot of that's going into my evo8. you all WILL eat my exhaust if we happen to pull side-by-side. Peace.

oh ps. I drive a 2001 honda civic hx........it's my dad's car.....this is what inspires me to become the fastest thing on the road (the slowness of the car I drive now) therefore I have an advantage...although only a slight advantage to you slow girls driving your little OZ rallys.....god those suck (that is just my opinion, no need to get all menstrual on me or anything). peace.

wtf? LOL
I was just trying to say the WRC has nothing to do with whether wrx or evo 7 is better.
I dunno why WRC ever got brought up.

MorrisTheChief; we do not need people like you here on AF. If someone needs to resort to petty name calling to make a point, then you are not welcome, we prefer to have people with whom we can have intelligent converstions.

MorrisTheChief=banned

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This debate has been very interesting for me to read because all of you are supposedly evo enthusiasts. I know I have no place in this forum and my opinions will most likely be ridiculed if they don't conform with your ideas. I am a newbie and I have a 2001 Volkswagen Gti VR6. I know that any Evo can wipe the floor with my car at a drag strip or around the track, but I will atempt to share my "ideas" with all of you.

I think the Evo8 is as much of an Evo as the previous generations, but it has "evolved" into a better car. I don't know where the weight stats for the new 8 were found, but I suspect that they are those of the US version. US saftey regulations are the main cause behind this tradgedy, but the good part is that we Americans can experience the Evo. The dabate for superiority between the Evo 6 and the 8 is a matter that cannot be truly resolved until one drives the two cars in a direct comparison. The 6 is an excellent car, but I feel that the 8 hasn't had a chance to prove itself yet. Finally, the rallying issue will be answered when the Evo 8 is integrated into the Mitsubishi team, but until then one can only speculate about the outcome.

I am a huge fan of all Evo's and I hope all of you don't take this post the wrong way!

Cheers!

As far as I know the evo 8 will be a slightly enhanced version of the evo 7.... the differences being a sixth gear and slightly different body styling. Dont know what the power output for the US version will be though! I know that here in Ireland we will be able to order the 8 in from Japan by March or April but I think I'll stick to the 7 that I have. Believe me.... all you US enthusiasts.... If you're buying an 8 when it becomes available you are in for one hell of a ride!!!! It will become your pride and joy, your prized possesion..... THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE!!!! Well... I'm getting a bit carried away here, sorry!

By the way, Golf VR6 is a VERY sweet car, I was always a fan of the Golf, especially in VR6 form... There is actually a golf in the UK with 2 VR6 engines, one front one back and they're both turbo charged WITH NOS!!!! Crazy Sh*t!

The Evolution 8 has been debuted in SCCA Pro Rally and did quite well for the record.

As far as I'm concerned no car in the Evolution line on the whole has been a step back.

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Originally posted by neilex
As far as I know the evo 8 will be a slightly enhanced version of the evo 7.... the differences being a sixth gear and slightly different body styling. Dont know what the power output for the US version will be though! I know that here in Ireland we will be able to order the 8 in from Japan by March or April but I think I'll stick to the 7 that I have. Believe me.... all you US enthusiasts.... If you're buying an 8 when it becomes available you are in for one hell of a ride!!!! It will become your pride and joy, your prized possesion..... THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE!!!! Well... I'm getting a bit carried away here, sorry!

US market will be getting 5spd trannies and will not have AYC or ACD whereas j-spec models will have all of the above. I'm assuming Euro spec will be the same or closer to j-spec. At any rate, it is garaunteed to be one hell of a car at one hell of a price.

I don't know why people are whining about the tranny, if they knew better the 5spd is a stronger tranny anyways.

I would personally prefer 5 spd.... Its a bit strange the way they're leaving out the ACD and AYC for US versions! Anyone know why this is?

I would say it is purely to get the car to u guys as cheaply as possible. Cost would be the only factor.
Sounds almost as if u guys are getting the RS model. Except u get the brembos.

well what matters is its here and at it's price its still a bargain considering whats out there.

The Evo VIII is also supposed to be lighter than the VII.

supposed to but its not, its a bit bigger as we all know, but still its here and you can't find any other awd car comparable to its performance to price ratio.

Does anyone know which one is lighter STi or VIII?

well supposedly the U.S STI is gonna have about 300hp on tap and to me it looks better than the evo, I also think it's gonna be faster which is natural becuz its being released after the evo was so its only natural for a company to up its specs and becuz they had to make it a big enough difference from the regular WRX.

It's all conjecture at this point. There are no specs on the U.S. WRX STi.

yeah there are no specs thats why I said "supposedly", more than likely it will be more powerful than an evo, its only natural. It is in subaru's advantage right now, especially that the evo is out. I'm not dumping the evo here, I like the car but i'm only stating the obvious.

The lancer evo is a great car. If you think it's dangerous, just don't drive it. As long as everyone keeps it legal I don't see why you wouldn't want to tune the great car.

http://www.speedrevolution.com/images/header.jpg

shoot who cares if its illegal...

id love an illegal EVo Vi.. :D

legal evo vi would be better..then again having a evo vi in the states would be my dream come true

This is my 7

Originally posted by Gasara
IMO, best EVOs are III-V.

I would agree. EVO IVs being my favorite of all.

Still... It's ALL good.

I voted for VI. But it's pretty close (that's in looks seeing as I can't even drive).

In answer to the question, the Evo VII was a good car. The performance and handling is excellent. As for looks, thats subjective, but I like the 6's looks better, but the 7 was good. I say was because the car is no longer in production.

Originally posted by neilex
I would personally prefer 5 spd.... Its a bit strange the way they're leaving out the ACD and AYC for US versions! Anyone know why this is?

hey guys..... i know this is a retort to a post that is a wee bit old, but i've an answer.

the hydrualic system/pump for the ACD is located in the trunk on the left side. but not in the trunk. it is behind the interior lining. it is only a few mil. from the rear fairing (fender). in the event of a shant with someone or something, the ACD unit would be destroyed. that is why we relocate them on our rallye cars to the other side (actually in the trunk). and yes, cost is a bit of a factor. also maintaining the system is a bit more.

i suspect once the Evo settles into the US market Mitsu. will equip Evos with the ACD.

the five speed in MUCH stronger than the six. stay away from the six.

the five is a bit long in first and top gear, but you can use the RS gearbox which is very tigh, and has a 48 final drive in it
:D

the Evo is lighter than the STI. not to mention quicker.

mind you, for maximum acceleration, stay under you boost spike. don't worry 'bout where they say the power peak is. this is a turbo car, keep her in boost.


Cheers


Tso
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don't wast your bloody time with subaru comparisons. for this is none. no subaru comes close to an Evo.

subaru has to make as STI version just to attempt to lessen the performance gap of Mitsubishis "regular" Evo.

i have three STI'S, they are fine, but they are no Evo. rallye, street, circuit, fun... Evo is king.

there is nothing a subaru can do that an Evo can't do at least twice as good.

and yes, the subaru's enjoy plenty of understeer.

Evo, on throttle, nose tucks/tail out. off throttle, nose tucks/tail out. drag/trail brake, nose tucks/tail out. that is how a TRUE car should go 'bout doing it's buisiness.


Enjoy the elements


Tso

If you like line driving around the circuit, stick with the Evos that come with AYC and ACD, you'll be much quicker. But if you like drifting it, its easier to do so with the RS versions that come with mechanical LSD's at the rear.

I've driven a 4, a 5, a 6.5 TME and a 7, and the build quality of the 7 is way above the other earlier Evos.

I drive an Evo 4 (sometimes for work, but mostly on track-days, amateur motorsport competitions and fun-runs) and the freaking noises from the suspension is driving me nuts! Plus the entire car squeaks and rattles, not something you will appreciate coming home from work in traffic. :( Good thing I have another car to use when I'm not in the mood for some serious g-forces. :)

The 7 has none of these NVH problems (well, not as much as the CN generation / body of Lan-Evos compared to the CP of the 7).

CAR (or was it evo magazine) said the Evo 7 is like having a proper relationship, whereas the older ones were like one-night stands. So true. :)

By the way, the 7's had a factory recall because there was something wrong with the clutch system, AFAIK it was the clutch master cylinder not pumping enough fluids to move the clutch, making for some harsh shifting in WOT at the redline, and the airbag was not functioning properly on earlier models. (a friend totalled his Evo 7 a few days after he got it, airbag never came out, hit a wall at 70 mph. 3 daays after, Ralli-Art HK sent them a chip for the airbag, it had to be plugged in in place of the existing one which was to be removed and the new one put in place).

Now that the 8 is coming to the US and the rest of the world (officially, not as a special parallel import), I can't wait to see how it will perform. :) IMHO it looks better than the 7. :)

my only grumbling 'bout the VIII is lack of the ACD.

if you change the brain on the US spec Evo to a UK or JP Evo, it runs exactly how it should. everything works just fine. i tried it.

i've driven the US spec Evo, and it is fantastic. hooligan drop-throttle.

why do you guys say evo 7 sucks??? and not fast enough???

EVO 7 Extreme-S Model goes 0-60 in 3.8 sec... how that make that car not monsterious ???

Was just told by our contact in Ralli-Art Hong Kong that the LHD versions of the Evo 8 w/ 6-speed tranny and AYC / ACD should be out right efore the year ends.

Hopefully, the US market gets it too. Many of us here (in the Philippines) are holding orders for the 8 until the 6-speeder arrives.

Hmm, could I fit that 6-speeder into my old 4? Hehehehehehehe. :)

the evo vi rs is the best out of them all its the fastest evo made if you dont inclued the ones what were made by ralliart it does 12.9 1/4mile from factory i know for a fact that no factory wrx sti can beat it and some came with the factory extras like the big wheels not even a godzilla can beat them i know this because we raced one in my vi rs and killed it in the 1/4mile it may not have a massive top speed but its fast

Driven the EVO IV, V VI and now own the EVO VII. The VII drives differently and the responce is amazing. The VI is very raw and not a dailly car.

Since clem posted his silver EVO VII which is what I have, here is a black one belonging to a friend
http://www.bahrainicars.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=713&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

i liked the evo 6 but when the evo 7 cme out i like that alittle more. they r both great cars but i tend to like the new stuff that comes out. http://www.geocities.com/rallyart_nz/rallyaction1.jpg

what can i tell u the 7 is the S*&T