Is this one a tough comparison or what? Now in the past, BMW M3 has won this battle against the C36 or C43 AMG. Now we have an all new M3 and an all new C32 AMG. Who takes this fight?

The Merc is an auto still, right?
If not, my vote needs to be reconsidered.
Yup, still the M3.
cool car

The M3 is more edgy. Its more like an American V8. So I'll take the M3. :)

M3

The M3 only cause it's a stick.

Throw the 6-speed in the C32 and I'd take it anyday.

In automobile, they did a comparison, and the M3 and C32 both got 5.2 seconf 0-60 times. The M3 probably wasn't driven super-well, but with a stick, the Merc could clean the bimmer.
If only Mercedes would put a stick in their high-performance models, then we would have something:cool:

Come on people! The C32 has a 354 Hp Supercharged AMG V-6!! It is also a family car, the M3 rocks but I think the C32 could smoke it in several catergories.

whats the price of both vehicles?

remember the c32 is supercharged and the M3 is not
they both have 3.2L 6-cylinder engines but the M3 haves more than 100 hp/L naturally aspirated
think about the M3 after its blown
can we say 450hp?

Originally posted by VTEC V6
whats the price of both vehicles?

remember the c32 is supercharged and the M3 is not
they both have 3.2L 6-cylinder engines but the M3 haves more than 100 hp/L naturally aspirated
think about the M3 after its blown
can we say 450hp?

The AMG C32 has about 111 horses per litre while the new M3 has 104 horses per litre. I'm really not sure who the winner is here and I'm hoping some car mag will test the two.

On a different note, does the C32 pack the second highest horses per litre? Honda S2000 is first and has 120/L.

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the honda s2k is highest hp/l for n/a car.
if you want a highest hp/l for a f/i car (the merc w/ a super)... the merc isnt even close, considering that there are turbo cars that are pushin at least 111 per liter...
if you look at production turbos and s/c cars, they push around 100 ish...
but that doesnt say much... there have been crazy stock cars prior that were pushin out way more hp/l...

so compare hp/l for fi, and then for the n/a... that is where the s2k is at.

Originally posted by flylwsi
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the honda s2k is highest hp/l for n/a car.
if you want a highest hp/l for a f/i car (the merc w/ a super)... the merc isnt even close, considering that there are turbo cars that are pushin at least 111 per liter...
if you look at production turbos and s/c cars, they push around 100 ish...
but that doesnt say much... there have been crazy stock cars prior that were pushin out way more hp/l...

so compare hp/l for fi, and then for the n/a... that is where the s2k is at.

What do you mean the Merc is not close? It has 111 horses per litre, granted it is supercharged...But what other super charged production car can push 111 horses/litre?

i was simply stating that the s2k is a n/a motor... thas all i meant, im just saying that they are two diff categories, and i dint really have another f/i car in mind... it just came out...

The subaru impreza WRX 22B STi has a 276 hp 2.0l four, thats 140 hp per litre. It is probable closer to 150 hp per litre, though.:eek:
That is one (good) example.

Originally posted by Chris
The subaru impreza WRX 22B STi has a 276 hp 2.0l four, thats 140 hp per litre. It is probable closer to 150 hp per litre, though.:eek:
That is one (good) example.

But are those pure horses?

what is a pure horse?
as opposed to a synthetic?
also... the 911 turbo and gt2 have higher ratios...
129 for the gt2, and 116 for the turbo...

The 1.8 litre version of the Audi TT makes 125 hp/l. The Mclaren F1 was the first to break the barrier however back in 93'.

By pure horses I mean no turbos or anything. Just the horses produced by the engine!

Porsche,

Wow I didn't know the TT had 125hp/litre. Why is the S2K the hp/l champ then?

how exactly is the merc motor making pure horses than... if a motor is f/i, it isnt pure hp then is it... right? if you are asking about pure hp, and we are talkin about f/i cars.. then it isnt pure hp

2 bad poll is closed

M3

M3 = aggressive beauty

Originally posted by flylwsi
how exactly is the merc motor making pure horses than... if a motor is f/i, it isnt pure hp then is it... right? if you are asking about pure hp, and we are talkin about f/i cars.. then it isnt pure hp

If the horses are created by solely by the engine withouy any additional help, then they are pure horses.

The stopwatch doesn't know the difference between a pure horse and f/i horses

look ive been a BMW fan since my dad bought a 5 series in 1990. the M3 is way beter than the merc the M3 has 343 HP and 3.2 liters. thats 107 Hp per liter. the enzo produces 110 liter and the honda S2000 120 iter. also bmw is one of the few auto makers that does not use turbos (not counting disels)to boost preformance. for me bmw produces the best engines. instead of straping on a turbo they will invent a new tecnology to give it the extra prefomence. look at mercs and bmw new 12 cylinders. well bmw is just sportier and plain cooler

Wouldn't the CLK55 be a better comparison to the M3? Just a thought.....

that isnt the tread you idiot

the m3 is much better faster better looking and ever thing

i agree if ya got a problem f you

i cant wait to get my m3 im saving up to get one

nice well im 16 and live in holland so i cant drive till im 18 but i will get an M3 when i grow older ICH LIEBE MEIN M3 WEIL ER SO SHONE UND SCHNELLE IST.

well i soled my tvr and im a bit short on money for an m3 i cant wait

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Cool it

okay im sorry its my first time on a forum. learning is the process of making errors

its ok i dont mind

enough with the whoring up of the old, irrelevant topic :screwy: