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Indyrider
11-19-2003, 08:45 PM
Backflushed my 98 Taurus heatercore as per FIREMAN's instructions (hot water etc..) Now my heater is blowing toastie warm (HOT!!) again!! worked like a charm :iceslolan Thanks FIREMAN!!!

bbrumlow
12-10-2003, 05:59 PM
I have the same problem, but I'm a novice. Can you provide a step-by-step on how to do this? Please include a description for identifying the place on the heater core to "attach the garden hose".

THANK YOU SOO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!

volscot
12-12-2003, 01:24 PM
Anybody?? I'm in the same predicament and would like specific instructions. I feel confident doing the work, if I know what I'm suppossed to be doing.

For a 98 Taurus, would I disconnect the black coolant hoses going into the firewall and then put the hose into the hole in the firewall to flush with hot water? If that is not right, someone please correct me.

Thanks.

volscot
12-12-2003, 01:25 PM
Anybody?? I'm in the same predicament and would like specific instructions. I feel confident doing the work, if I know what I'm suppossed to be doing.

For a 98 Taurus, would I disconnect the black coolant hoses going into the firewall and then put the hose into one of the holes to flush with hot water? If that is not right, someone please correct me.

Thanks.

Indyrider
12-13-2003, 12:18 AM
On my 98 the hoses that go to the heater core can be seen pretty easily by looking at the middle of the firewall... follow the 2 hoses coming into the engine compartment till you find where they connect to another hose and remove the hose clamps.. this is where you put the gardenhose-- water flowing towards the firewall... your heatercore is under your dash you can't see it! I put my garden hose on both of the hoses alternating it back and forth from one to the other to make sure I got all the junk (sediment etc..) washed out. Also before I did this I had changed my thermostat. Good luck, I hope this helps!

volscot
12-16-2003, 01:09 PM
I used the "garden-hose-to-flush-out-the-heater-core" technique last night and I now have heat in my 96 (not 98 as I erroneously said above) Taurus. I couldn't access the clamp/clip on the bottom hose going into the firewall because even my shortest pliers hit against the engine, so I traced both hoses from the firewall to the engine and disconnected there. I flushed probably a total of 15 minutes with the jet nozzle on my garden hose, alternating from one side to the other. It was after dark, so I would stop every couple of minutes and check the runoff on my driveway with the flashlight to look for rust-colored sediment floating away. After the water was clean (about 10 min), I flushed 5 more minutes for good measure. I put everything back together, refilled the coolant and went to get some gas. After the engine warmed up, I felt heat for the first time this season! :lol2:

One side note, since I put everything back together last night my factory radio has been cutting out every once in a while. At first it was on for 10 seconds, off for 5 over and over. Then the "on" time started getting longer. I think it may be that some water got in the wiring somewhere, but I don't know for sure. The radio stayed on all the way in to work this morning, but cut out again when I went to lunch. Like I said, the time that it stays on is getting longer but I hope this isn't some new problem I've created. It isn't warm enough here for the water to evaporate quickly (low-30's overnight & upper-40's today), so the problem may just go away over time. If no one responds to this problem here, I'll post it as a separate message.

Indyrider
12-17-2003, 08:18 PM
Glad to hear you have heat!! I didn't suffer any radio probs after flushing my core so I can't give any real advice...but it sounds like something got wet, hopefully it will dry out in time.

breachless
01-07-2004, 08:18 PM
I have the same problem and I found a different and much easier fix for this (Don't know how long it lasts yet...) I was checking my hoses going into the heater core to see if both were hot and the outgoing hose was, in fact, cold. So, in a pitiful attempt to do SOMETHING, I thought I would squeeze the hoses where they are rubber right up against the firewall... Kind of like pumping the bulb on a fuel line for a small outboard motor for a boat. I thought this might dislodge anything stuck in the heatercore, and to my genuine surprise, IT WORKED! I have heat for now and it took only a matter of minutes.

I realize that whatever was clogging it up is still in there somewhere and will likely clog things back up again, but for now I have heat. It's worth a shot before you go and do all the work of flushing the heater-core (not that it's that hard anyway, but I live in an apartment and cannot do it there...)

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions here and I hope I have been of some assistance.

doggie
01-08-2004, 09:32 PM
I also have problem with my heater. It have never blow hot air out, unless I am running on the high way (2000 rpm up).
I just replace the heater core, the process is horrible (All the instrument panel has to be remove.). I am also replace the thermostat valve. Now everything still the same.
One thing that I know is the hose to my heater core keep cold, even the one to my radiator is too hot to touch.
Are there anybody has idea? Please help I am freeezing here.

breachless
01-09-2004, 09:49 AM
I would say it's your heater core not getting any flow like mentioned above, but if it was just replaced, that is unlikely... Make sure you have enough coolant in your car: if you don't have enough, you don't get much heat at all, and another possibility is that you have air in your lines... from what I have been told, a good way to fix this is to run the car for a minute or so when the radiator cap is off... There may be a much more effective way to do this so if someone knows, post it here.

Hope some of that helps: living in Minnesota, I know EXACTLY what it is like to have no heat. Good luck!

frag24
01-12-2004, 03:14 PM
just went to PEP Boys to have my cooling system flush coz coolant is turning brown. I taught that it would help my heating problem but still didnt work.
Do I have to do it directly on the heater core?

breachless
01-14-2004, 11:42 AM
Yes. From what I understand, a normal coolant system flush doesn't do much for you heater core because you have to BACK flush it to get all of the sediment and crap that is clogging it up. Try the garden hose trick: seems to have worked for a lot of people here and is not that hard to do if you have a place to do it. Good luck.

PDModel98
01-19-2004, 08:09 AM
Ok, here's my story. I have a 99 taurus wagon. I have had the heater core flushed multiple times and I have the bypass hose clamped off so all the radiator fluid is going through the heater core. I also have covered some of the radiator (like the big rigs do in the winter). Still no heat. The hoses going to the heater core are hot and the temp gauge never goes above 1/3 hot. Since I have covered the radiator I have heard the cooling fan go on several times.

There is some heat but it never gets hot. The faster the fan is on the colder the air that comes out of the vents.
Any advice?

Indyrider
01-19-2004, 09:53 PM
Thermostat!!

PDModel98
01-20-2004, 08:13 AM
That's the first thing I replaced....

Next!

frag24
01-20-2004, 01:26 PM
Got Heat Now. But I Needed To Replace My Heater Core, Wasn't Able To Flush It Directly Coz It's Too Cold Here In Ny. As Per D Mechanic This May Happen Again Because Of The Rust Coming From Engine Block, Is There A Way We Can Stop This Rust Fr Engine To Heater Core?????? Is Ther A After Mkt Filter??? And Also Do You Guys Know Wher To Get Flush Kit For Heater Core???

PDModel98
01-22-2004, 08:25 AM
OK I have a question. If i can get fluid to run through my heater core does that mean it is ok? Or can the heater core be bad (as in not be able to transfer heat) and still allow fluid to pass through it?

jimh123
10-26-2004, 08:47 AM
Hey PD, I have been having the same problem, 98 sedan.

Did you ever get this fixed?

I have replaced the thermostat, back flushed the
heater coil.

Thanks, getting cold again

mwt
10-26-2004, 09:14 AM
just went to PEP Boys to have my cooling system flush coz coolant is turning brown. I taught that it would help my heating problem but still didnt work.
Do I have to do it directly on the heater core?


You don't say what year you have but there was a problem with the GenIII cars concerning the coolant turning brown. There is a kit to install that allows coolant to bypass and flow. Your whole cooling system can become clogged and rusted out including freeze plugs if you don't get it installed.

Mike
:smokin:

jimh123
10-26-2004, 04:54 PM
It is a 98 sedan, I had no over heating problems all summer.
my temp gauge runs at 1/3, runs very cold, any ideas?

jimh123
10-27-2004, 08:43 AM
Hey doggie, what did you do to fix your heat problem, I'm having
the same problem

chiefifd
10-29-2004, 07:41 PM
I have a 1999 Taurus to with almost no heat.I replaced my steel lines going to and from the heater core, they were all rusted and when I removed them they broke. MY FORD dealer flushed the heater core and the entire system last winter when I had no heat, he got the vent temp up to about 140%. I wanted to try to flush the system this year to see if I could get it a bit warmer. Well when my steel lines broke I replaced them with Gates heater hose and Gates elbows to resemble the old steel lines. When I flushed the system and got the whole thing running I went for a ride and my vent temp is up to 170% to 160% depending on fan speed. The cost to replace the steel lines was about 20 bucks for hose,clamps and connectors....ED

jimh123
11-01-2004, 08:46 AM
what about your tempature gauge, mine seems to run
bewteen 1/3 and 1/2 half on the gauge.

I think my problem is the temp never really gets hot

I can remember the last time the cooling fan came on

FlamingTaco
11-01-2004, 09:11 AM
Ok, here's my story. I have a 99 taurus wagon. I have had the heater core flushed multiple times and I have the bypass hose clamped off so all the radiator fluid is going through the heater core. I also have covered some of the radiator (like the big rigs do in the winter). Still no heat. The hoses going to the heater core are hot and the temp gauge never goes above 1/3 hot. Since I have covered the radiator I have heard the cooling fan go on several times.

There is some heat but it never gets hot. The faster the fan is on the colder the air that comes out of the vents.
Any advice?

If both hoses to the heater core get hot, but cold air blows into the cabin, your blend door is stuck, or the controls for it are broken.

chiefifd
11-01-2004, 04:07 PM
My 1999 Taurus gauge reads at about 1/3 or 1/2 depending how you are looking at the gauge. My needle on the gauge never changed even when my vents were blowing cold air it still read the same as now. My heater works fine now without changing the heater core. Let me know if you have any luck.................Ed

jimh123
11-02-2004, 08:52 AM
How does someone test the blend doors?
Can I see them under the dash board?

mwt
11-02-2004, 08:58 AM
If you have done all of that the only thing left is the blend door.

The heat is always available from the heater core. The blend door opens and allows that hot air to be distributed inside the car. When it doesn't open you don't get any heat.

Mike
:smokin:

fordfool
11-15-2004, 11:01 PM
i have a 98, i have had the same problem for 2 years. i changed the thermostat and backflushed the heater core 3 times. i have checked the blend door, it works fine, full travel in both directions. it almost seems like the air conditioning might be working or something?????? if i dont get some heat soon, my wife's gonna be bitchin'.....again........ i dont want to put it in the shop to have some guy rip me off for a new core and thermo and whatever else he can think of! maybe its in the steel lines, i dont know!!!!

jimh123
11-16-2004, 08:48 AM
adding fluid seems to help mine, maybe a leak some where.
I was thinking about crimping the line that goes between
the 2 steel lines for the winter to see if it helps

fordfool
11-16-2004, 07:28 PM
i flushed my core again today, flushed all the lines. no heat. so i drove around praying for heat, and got some. actually pretty good heat, but only when im driving. if i stop, it goes cool. if i go, it goes hot. coolant level is correct. i dont know, but at least now i have some heat. hope it lasts.

FlamingTaco
11-17-2004, 08:56 AM
i flushed my core again today, flushed all the lines. no heat. so i drove around praying for heat, and got some. actually pretty good heat, but only when im driving. if i stop, it goes cool. if i go, it goes hot. coolant level is correct. i dont know, but at least now i have some heat. hope it lasts.

#1 - You have air in the system. As you drive (engine speed increases), the faster spinning waterpump creates a larger pressure differential, and coolant starts flowing through the heater core lines. You can test this by revving the motor and holding at 2.5-3k while sitting still.

#2 - Flaky EATC driver board.

#3 - You have a weak blend door actuator. More common on Caravans than SHO's, weak blend door actuators will not open the door to the heater core air path until you get the rpm's up. The SHO's door is possibly operated by an electric motor so this may not apply, but it is something to look into if #1 and 2 are not your problem.

fordfool
11-17-2004, 10:05 PM
how do you get the air out of the system???

thanks

fordfool
11-20-2004, 02:04 AM
i put a new radiator cap on and the heat is much better. we will see when it gets really cold.

vikdan
11-28-2004, 02:39 AM
My father-in-law also told me to check the hoses leading to the heater core. He said there is a valve that opens when compartment heat is called for from the temp control switch. My lines where hot so I didn't bother to look and see if such a valve exists. Just a thought.

LarryKL
11-28-2004, 03:50 PM
FYI: Using a digital volt/ohm meter, the current between the negative battery post and the coolant (insert postive probe) with the enging running should be less than .04 volts. Anything above will cause electrolysis and cause repeated heater core failue. They recommend a coolant flush if that is the case.

Jack Connors
01-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Thermostat!!
Hi There, Brand new here 1 day, My wife has a 98 taurus, did the heater core twice, new thermostat,flushed entire system, both hoses are HOT going into heater core and coming out,door opens,under dash. Our local ford dealer ship is 102 dollars a hr. for electrical, and thats what they believe, gets some heat, but not hot,the hot to cold works it gets colder if put in the blue posistion, and warm, at best in the red position,temp gauge is right wheree it supposed to be, Can any one help, I want my explorer back,,,Thanks in advance, Jack

FlamingTaco
01-31-2005, 04:23 PM
You should start a new thread instead of posting to one that has been dead for several months.

Your blend door is not opening up for the heater core enough or the outside vent door is not closing completely, or both. The door at the bottom is for recycling cabin air.

Jack Connors
01-31-2005, 04:48 PM
You should start a new thread instead of posting to one that has been dead for several months.

Your blend door is not opening up for the heater core enough or the outside vent door is not closing completely, or both. The door at the bottom is for recycling cabin air.
Thank you, i hope that came through, like i said im 1 day old, and am a big collector of snap on for 35+ years, what does the bottom door do? I have a charmin cheapy manual from pep boys $10.00 or so, and have worked on cars my hole life,(when they had points and condensers),But with everything beings comps. now, thats why all local ford dealerships at $100.00 plus per hr are very helful,The only snap on toy i dont have is a scanner, The blend door looks like its opening up enough,is there a way to test it with a test light or volt meter? Again thanks for all your help in advance,Jack

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