Pull up to a red light and look over and a 17-18 year old is driving mommy's car. He revs so I get ready...it turns green and i got a perfect launch. Much to my surprise we stay even through first gear :confused: I pulled in 2nd then slowed down but I almost shit myself when it was even in 1st. My friend that was with me told me they had v6's but still....it's a fuckin grandma car!! Well anyways I looked them up and they have over 190 hp and over 200 lb's or torque :headshake

Okay I don't see how that would shock you...I mean he has a big torque advantage over you and even though you were faster in the end, of course he's going to stay with you through first gear...I mean even a Dodge Caravan with their bigger V6's will stay with you through first gear but eventually you'll pull away. What's the saying..."Torque is what gets it going, horsepower is what keeps it going :icon16: "