hey everyone i was jw what DOHC motor would fit in my 1992 corolla i just blew the stock motor and want to keep it because i have so many tickets so i want to make a sleeper out of it i was looking at a 3sgte swap or a JDM 4AGE 20 VALVE ENGINE but im not 100% sure what will fit right in is there anyone on here that could help me out or tell me a motor that would fit that is DOHC that would fit right in thanks for your help so much everyone mike :smile:

1 hp silly

Any 4A will fit. Dont pay more than $700 for one though.

what about a trusty 1ZZ-FE off any 99-02 Corolla?

HogieGT-R: do you no what kind of HP and stuff they have?? get back to me thanks mike

HogieGT-R: do you no what kind of HP and stuff they have?? get back to me thanks mike

1ZZ-FE

1.8 Liter, 4-Cylinder, In-Line Twin Cam, 16-Valve EFI, aluminum alloy block and head
Bore X Stroke (in): 79.0 x 91.5
Displacement (cc): 1794
Compression Ratio 10:0:1
Timing Chain Drive
Horsepower (SAE) 130 HP @ 5600
Torque (SAE) 125 lb/ft @ 4400
Fuel System EFI
Recommended Fuel 87 Octane

this is just stock stuff though

to little of HP if im going to do a swap i want it to be fast not just kind of.....

dude a 4AGE has about the same power as a 1ZZ-FE in terms of stock horsepower, you could always try to get one of the same engine code from a Toyota Celica which has about 140 horsepower...or you could really try your luck with a 2ZZ-GE from a Celica GT-S or a Matrix XRS with 180 hp, but i don't know if that would fit inside the corolla chassis with enough ground cleareance....there are also companies that make aftermarket superchargers and turbochargers of which can be seen from www.corolland.com, but seriously if you can find a 3S-GTE and actually fit it in your chassis while also making it a fast and efficient racer, then more power to ya hell i'd love to see the pics and a description of how you did it..i'd just be worried of there being too much front-end weight so that it ruins your car's balance...also you might have to upgrade your axle if it's more than 200 horsepower...plus 3S-GTE's i'd think would be hard to find seeing how in this day and age, i haven't seen a GT-Four/All-Trac for sale let alone their engines, but hell i'd love to hear about it......

Well :D

Silvertop 20v 160hp @ 7400rpm
Blacktop 20v 165hp @ 7800rpm

4AGZE (supercharged) 165hp

were do you want me to start? I have a silvertop 4age
the 4agze is quick off the line and has easy mods like turboing it, one here making 173kw on the dyno 20valves have better top end but takes alot of money to improve them from stock form

AceNZ_20v4AGE: so you think that the 4agze would be the best idea??? it is easy to make it even fast then stock then the 4age?

yea it is, you can get pully kits to run the supercharger at abit higher boost, all depends on the weight of the car, I dont know what you can and cant do in the country your in, the gze has nice torque down low while the 4age dosnt have much down there but loves to rev high
they both have there areas, 4agze is the choice for drag and 20valve 4age is for the track, plenty of web sites around if you look it up on the net, try and get a engine from a AE101 tho

http://www.angelfire.com/mt/AceSniper/pic/engin.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/AceSniper/pic/leftside.jpg

couple of pics of my AE101 in factory form

AceNZ_20v4AGE: do you think that the 4agze is a very strong motor??? get back to me thanks

hey, yea they are pritty strong, the crank and rods are forged the pistons are semi forged (some are forged), the block is the same as the 20valve's you will need the gze gearbox they are stronger than 4age ones and have the right ratio's some of them also come factory with LSD's.

I know of one over here runing around 20psi? off factory internals using a link to run things along with bigger Nissan GTIR injectors

The car is on a website but it seams to be down right now so ill post if when/if it is back up, it was dynoed at 173KW's at the front wheels (traction issues *smiles*) did a 13.?? 1/4 mile with bad traction only on 15's, 93 AE101 levin about 1100kg?

ohh and you guys with your 1ZZ-FE ... I think they are a crap fukup from toyota... to start with its a "FE" class engine narrow cam angles, then witht he alloy block... how much bost could that hold :S and been a FE engine i would imagine the internals are quite weak, and a 4age is way better trust me (newer ones) you guys are just deprived of the best jap engines with your emissions and left hand drive stuff

Some reading, A place in the uk doing conversions...
bit of an idea of what they have done altho I bet they charge a ton

http://www.fensport.co.uk/fensportcarsmain.htm

go straight to the GZE or the 20v and slap a turbo on to it, leave the internals stock and wind in the boost.
I helped build up a GZE with 32 psi, water to air, slapper inlet mainfold, fully function T-VIS(!!!) and we made a genuine 336hp/255kw at the wheels, not dyno-jet horsepower, dyno-dynamics.
this was with 180,000km stock pistons ,cams, well everything except inlet and exhaust mainfolds and inlet was no better than stock(T-VIS!)
it was however running methanol,but i dont see why you couldnt do the same thing with proper inlet setup and lower boost to see a comfy 300hp atw.
This engine has expired but only due to a combination of the oil being watered down by the methanol and a huge over rev(recall on Microtech was 10,800rpm) no rods out the side just spun rod bearings, so we launched it and got a built 20v (wisecos,crowers,innovative T-61,toda cam gears) made 371hp@27psi then kept spinning off the dyno, still sorting out the finals but should easily eclipse 400 and them we will start really winding in the boost..........

oh, and this was all in OZ land, but i am an NZer- go the mighty ALL BLACKS!

A little correction the 4agze 1600 16valve supercharge is 170@6400 That one came in the ae101. the ae92 4agze came 165@6400

you dont wanna just go slapping boost into a 20valve the crank,rods are ligtend to let them rev high in N/A form and the pistons have quite thin crowns that you will blow a hole in, however you can get a 20valve put the gze crank and rods in then get custom forged pistons (prolly cost abit) the gze pistons will work but if you brake your timing belt you will take out your valves, or you could get the gze then mod it and slap a 20valve head onto it, but you will still need to change pistons due to the cutouts

in saying all this tho im unsure if the 20valve head, or the TEVIS intake help much with forced induction, altho the 20v head should flow alot better along with its quad throttles ;)

A little correction the 4agze 1600 16valve supercharge is 170@6400 That one came in the ae101. the ae92 4agze came 165@6400

depends early AE92 were less powerfull than the later AE92 which has the same engine as the AE101 gze, but the AE92 will be quicker due to weight

Hi,

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the ae101 lighter than the ae92. Can any give the actual weight of both cars. I know the design make it look fatter, but someone told me it was lighter. Well then the rims are bigger (15" stock, 14"wouldn't fit) :evillol:

every AE101 vs AE92 race iv seen the AE92 has been slightly quicker :S
and my 20valve tends to keep up/pass them at anything over 60km's (un modded ones)

have a read up of this.. for AE101 specs
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/AceSniper/ae101.html

AE101's came with 14" rims, 14" alloys, and 15" alloys

the 14" rims came on the S and SJ (granny spec)

14" alloys came on the GT APEX's that didnt have super strut

15" alloys came on all gtz's and any car with super strut

(super strut uses slightly bigger calipers that are twin piston and the 14" wheels wont fit on them), all gze's have superstrut, along with some apex's that took advantage of the option, superstrut is nasty when it stuffs up... expensive

I know all about the ae101 (GT-Z). I own one (ae101 gt-z with lsd) and before I had an ae92 (GT-Z), my younger brother wrecked it completely.

I draged against my friend ae92, Mods intake, exhaust, pulley and abv mod and back then all my car had was intake, exhaust, remap, 17'' wheels and 100 lbs of music equipment. We ran 3 time on the straight, I won all 3 but he came pretty close. Than 3 run on a twisted road (not straight) and the ae92 got about 5 car lenghts. My point is the ae92 gt-z is almost as fast but don't handle as good (I still think it's heavier) making it less fun to drive
The ae101 gt-apex 20v is perfect for the highway to get you to work fast and might pass the gt-z on a road about a mile long and striaght. If you want a rush of turque, fast accelaration and excellent handling (fun driving) get the GT-Z
The wieght of the ae101 (gt-z) is 2530 lbs stock. 1.150 kg, can anyone please give the wieght of the ae92 (gt-z).
4agze engine has more room for modification and has stong internals. You basically can't do much with a 20valve. "someone say turbo", will you would have to disable the vvt. You might as well use a regular 4ag engine.

yea I agree, boost into a 20v isnt the answer, for them about all u can do is tune every little thing, that cost out weghs power gained, a pre facelift silvertop is slower to the facelift moddle due to the intake been better (bad head/intake match on pre facelift)

my 20v from a stand still aganst a gze will catch upto it in 3rd gear, on a rolling start anything above 60k it pulls away, also you could turbo one and keep VVT unless you change cams/cam gears but it dosnt have much advantage on a turbo i doubt, the quad intake should help, 20valves... no idea there are afew around turbo'd so ill have to try track one down, making the internals stronger is simply taking the gze ones and fitting them, apart from you need pistons for the valves :/
anyway i could talk for ever about this *yawn*

gze low rpm power, 20v high rpm power

20v hard to make more power, gze just slap more boost at it..

what year was the AE92? the later ones have the same engine as the AE101, and the ones from the first two years have slightly less power

Mellason : were are you from, I have a AE101 trueno aswell 20v facelift

Hi,

Iam from St.vincent, located in the caribbean, west of Barbados. Basically It's an island with no highways but fairly good road mostly narrow(occasional wide roads), curves and corners. Here the population is mostly young people and that mean alot of imports like supras, skylines, turbo starlets, turbo familiars 323, evo lancers, pulars gti-r, escorts rs, civic sir vertech s/c, integras sir, crx sir, one mustang 5.0, eclipse, FTO, 3000 gt, levin/ tureno gt-z, twin turbo fairlady, slivas (there a 2001 sliva with an gti-r engine conversion), impresa wrx/sti and vw corados(I had one 1800 s/c). On a small island one of the biggest motor sport attraction is elegal drag racing and street racing. these races occur mostly early in the morining (2-4 a.m). At these hours the roads are dead. Also there are no emmision law and on laws on what you can do to your vehicle. As you may observed most vehicles are form japan jdm (a few left hand drive).On the GT-Z run with the big boy (impresa, etc) because of the high torque at low end and instant boost, making one ideal car St.vincent. To put it simple here we don't have the roads for big displacement engines ( top-end power waste of time) and the all wheel turbo bad boy are no so hot on tar (personally I think they are missing the dirt). So a modified ae101 Tureno GT-Z will kick ass.

I don't ilegal race much "now" :rolleyes: because I'm the vice president of I.D.C.A auto club. Here is an old photo of my ae101 when I was racing. Later I'll send up dated photo.
http://www.4age.net/gallery/later/039.jpg

sounds sweet, yer the illegal drag racing scen here is mostly jdm imports, but the cops have come down really hard onit, I was done twice in one week for stuff that wasnt really "wrong" just young male.. jdm car... we will fine him! even such a law as "accelerating to fast" here now really lame.. the cops can choose they have nothing to measure this, big fines and 28day impounds go hard :/
anyways I owen a 1993 toyota Trueno GT Apex, im pleased with it altho iv been crashed into twice but a trusted panelbeater can do wounders. yea a gtz sounds best suted to your roads they were really common here (AE101's) but they are fading out and lots of AE111's are apearing lots of people dont give ae101 20v's credit but mines receved quite abit after proof, ill be out tonight rolling around but no racing for me cops are to hungry for such reaces also all my sound gear is in so its heavy.

just looking at the pic nice ride... dont you guys have number plates?
iv only got acouple ofpics non of how it is currently

http://www.angelfire.com/mt/AceSniper/trueno837.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/AceSniper/pic/leftside.jpg

Hi

I do have number plate. I my country you have an option of black plate with white number, front and back on the second option white plate with black numbers in the front and yellow plate with black numbers in the back. The number for my car in at the low right handle corner of the bumper P2003.
You thing this car looks nice, well if you were to see it now "man you'll love it". Have you ever driven a ae111 bz-r?

nar i havent driven anything with a blacktop engine aye *sigh*
hehe just got home its 2am I was winding up a BZR levin full of hot chicks, mate was out to... me an my mates have hand held uhf radios so we can talk... kinda confuses people when I ask them to wave the bzr fulla chicks up hehe yea AE101's are all good love the body love the intereor, the AE111's are quick nice looking done up, but you still get all that basic shit inside... lotsa plastic I like the specs of the AE111 but not the design but there not bad :) they run about 15.3 1/4 standard, there is a guy over here with a ae101 silvertop pulling 15's with no internal engine mods

what kinda things have you done to it, for handling and performance wise?


(kinda change the subject of this thred sorry every 1)

nice got talking to the chick with the AE111 its a 95 BZ (G i think) levin anyways might go out to a remote road this weekend an race or sumthen, she said id prolly win but im not sure on that :S she through I was a cop fri night coz of the radios O well

if youv got money a turbo 20v is the way to go. they have the exact same strength block a ze but you have to get ze pistons. i was talkin to rigoli proformance , they said you can run 30psi befor the heads crack. there one makes 410 horse power at the front wheels but big $$$$$.

haha runing gz pistons is risky if your timing belt brakes... take out everything!!!! gze crank an rods are needed but balancing them is important for rev's

Hi,

I've just got some new photo. I can't tell my in detail what I did to the car, mainly my rivals would know what I'm packing (XS), but i'll tell the ovious2.5 Tanabe exhaust system, cool air along with heat shield racing intake system, kyb adjustable with rs*r springs superstrut suspension, 17" rims, remap and excellent tunning.

when you say remap.. do you mean your runing a piggy back ecu or sumthen? coz asfar as I know no toyota ecu's can be remaped or adjusted :( took on a 20v ae101 last night, its had tons more spent onit than mine and 3rd gear just went strate passed him even tho I had more weight in passengers

AceNZ_20v4AGE: so you think that the 4agze would be the best idea??? it is easy to make it even fast then stock then the 4age?
Just thought you might like to see my Rolla with a 4a-gze transplant. You can find it here www.ae111sr.co.uk
Fensport big pulley, front mount intercooler, Dastek Unichip - running
187bhp @ 6400rpm + 167lbft @ 4800rpm

Hi guys,

Can someone eplain how to post photos directly onto post reply. I want to show the new photos of my car.

i jus get a toyota AE101 levin and im planning to put on 4agze engine this is the question after the engine get on what i have to modified cam?piston? anything tell me and 4agze engine have super charger?? wat turbo should i get it on??

for your question eror, i reckon a t-25garrett or t-28 ball bearing range of turbos will be gangsta :smokin:

3sgte you can add up to 700hp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey AceNZ, sounds like you really know your levins. I got an ae101, 4a-ge with a tranny from a supercharged levin. I need new cv joints for her and was wondering if I could put in the cv joints from an mr2? I was told it had to be a turbo mr2 but I wanted to make sure. also, if you happened to have part numbers, I would really appreciate it. thanks

ohh and you guys with your 1ZZ-FE ... I think they are a crap fukup from toyota... to start with its a "FE" class engine narrow cam angles, then witht he alloy block... how much bost could that hold :S and been a FE engine i would imagine the internals are quite weak, and a 4age is way better trust me (newer ones) you guys are just deprived of the best jap engines with your emissions and left hand drive stuff

YOur also biased for and against particular engines. The 1ZZ-FE incoroporates alot of new technology that makes troubleshooting easier if your better with a scanner or electrical/electronic diagnosis. YOur 4AGE incorporates more outdated technology that is better for someone that is not as electronically inclined. Besides, anyone can do just about anything with an engine, providing they have the following: basic and some advanced fundementals, machanical knowledge, electronic basics, and money to burn. Its all about what in the end your going for. A person needs to decide what his/her goal is, and RESEARCH all related matter to come up with an educated goal and a plan to achieve that. Throwing out engines and such things are not a way to go.

4 Age With Fit Im Putin In One On A 91 Corolla That Had A 4af3 Motor A 1.6 And Now Its 1.6 With A Dual Over Head Cam With 160 Hp 20v And If U Got Any Frineds With The A Single Over Head Cam And They Want A Need Head For It For 1.6 Let Me No I Have One And Is Bort And Polished Brand New No Lye

No offence Corolla20v, but WTF!!

Please, I understand people use certain terms in forums not usually found in everyday speech, but I am sure you aint speakin english, if you are - then off the the intensive english course for few more lessons you go!

What the hell is a Bort and Polish? and if you are sincere enough, saying "No Lye" does not make me further believe you, rendering this sentence useless.

Anyway, back on topic - easy solution 4age NA as a quick transplant, GZE for some nippy streeting, 20v if you love the high po NA feel (170+HP) Turbo the GZE for some street killer cred and 20V Turbo for over the top (400HP+)
7A bottom end for heavier cars.

Rob Benk ( And me behind the scenes) shows what the AE82+20v+turbo+Alcohol is capable of - 10.51@138 no N20( 440hpatw) food for thought...

oh my bad guy i didnt see that i type wrong but i just got in here for the first time this is my first project car im doing and i just want to get some info about certain type of motors thats all dude and thanks for the info but i already got a 4age 20v motor that is a jdm motor with everything stock with 160 hp i just want to see wat i can do to it to get it up to about 300 or 250 hp cuz i no i want to boost it but i need to no wat i can do to the motor to prep it for that much hp and for a high boost.