Silvia or a 180SX. Why do people say they have a Silvia SE or a 180SX LE, or a 240SX Type X(thats the Best). Even an RPS13 designation for a 240 is incorrect. its RHS13 or RMS13

The sad fact is unless your car is an actual RHD Silvia purcahsed in Japan, (ditto for 180SX) its NOT JDM, NEVER Will Be JDM and will never be a Silvia or 180SX. Its not just the badges, but there are many structural changes and differences in the cars that make them different.

besides a 180sx isn't street legal in America....

for one thing the engine doesn't pass emissions and was never certified.

Originally posted by Dorikin
Silvia or a 180SX. Why do people say they have a Silvia SE or a 180SX LE, or a 240SX Type X(thats the Best). Even an RPS13 designation for a 240 is incorrect. its RHS13 or RMS13

The sad fact is unless your car is an actual RHD Silvia purcahsed in Japan, (ditto for 180SX) its NOT JDM, NEVER Will Be JDM and will never be a Silvia or 180SX. Its not just the badges, but there are many structural changes and differences in the cars that make them different.

why would i want one of those when i could have a sil-40 with 180sx taillights?!?!!?!?!:ylsuper:

*sigh*...america always gets riped out of the good cars:sadwavey:

why do you guys let people that say dumb shit like that bother you? who really cares? its like all of those threads bitchin about ricers or the popularity of the 240 with dipshits looking for the next civic. it doesn't matter to me. i'd rather just laugh as i walk away. thats what i did in my honda days when i knew people with those rare usdm prelude type r's.

yea who really cares


:rolleyes:


stop bitching people and start raising threads that would actually help people, not this dumb bitching drama shit

thank you

Whatever dude, I like the name Silvia much more that the mundane "240sx SE"

I went to the Nissan dealership one time and the manager there tried arguing with me that there is no such thing as a Silvia... and didn't know the car was a 240...

ignorant ass.

As of right now, all my cars have alphanumeric designations... The Silva name tends to break that monotony a little bit.

My car may not be JDM (japanese DOMESTIC market) but I'll race any SR20 JDM wanna-be 240 any time.

I don't care what the hell you call your car as long as you know a little about it, it looks decent and it's relatively fast with good handling.

For all I car you can call your 240sx an escort or an escudo as long as you don't slap those badges on it I couldn't care less...

i think the reason people call the cars "180sx and silvias" is b\c it is easier for others to reconize what they are talkin about..

it doesnt bother me that much.. as long as i know what they are talkin about and i can help im happy..

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how would it be more easier for people us, usually americans, to call it 180sx instead of 240sx. You buy it its called a 240sx, the VIn is called a 240sx, the Tailights say 240sx....

I do know what he means, to keep it from becomming a stupid trend or catching on, you need to stop it before it becomes accepted. The only solution to a threat is to eliminate it... I call ricers a threat... why?

the 240sx is not produced anymore. The 240sx is in limited numbers and values increasing everyday it seems, people tend to drift these cars more and wreck them so thats a few less on the roads.... Then you have people who just want a show car for shows, and even drop in a JDM motor for looks...another waiste of a good engine for someone who would want to expoloit it. And the 240sx was never produced in numbers like a civic or prelude. It is a dieing breed and becomming a collectors car almost... S13 prices have doubled in the past year or so....

with all these stupid people wanting the car that leaves less for us, or even none because there might be a day when only 1,000 are around in 3 o 5 years even, how many of us would still drive a 240 then given fuel does not change. I would drive one 10 years from now and wouldn't care. The whole thing is not to hurt the 240sx community with bitching, its to help it. It helps people who have the car and use it. If you just want a show car or a cruiser get a F'N caddillac.

if any of my opinions offended you, im not sorry, you are probably one of the people I am talking about then hahaha!

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
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the 240sx is not produced anymore. The 240sx is in limited numbers and values increasing everyday it seems, people tend to drift these cars more and wreck them so thats a few less on the roads.... Then you have people who just want a show car for shows, and even drop in a JDM motor for looks...another waiste of a good engine for someone who would want to expoloit it. And the 240sx was never produced in numbers like a civic or prelude. It is a dieing breed and becomming a collectors car almost... S13 prices have doubled in the past year or so....

with all these stupid people wanting the car that leaves less for us, or even none because there might be a day when only 1,000 are around in 3 o 5 years even, how many of us would still drive a 240 then given fuel does not change. I would drive one 10 years from now and wouldn't care. The whole thing is not to hurt the 240sx community with bitching, its to help it. It helps people who have the car and use it. If you just want a show car or a cruiser get a F'N caddillac.

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Holy shit. Those are my thoughts exactly.

im offended:rolleyes: :biggrin:

lolz j\k i see your point..

yea it is true ricers are a threat.. but you can't have nice cars withe out having ricers also.. it like having a world with no problems and crime.. yea it would be nice but it will never happen..

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i personally don't care. let them call it what they want if it's built up, the only thing that bugs me a bit is if they call their stock car a Silvia or 180SX when it has nothing done to it and still says 240SX on it yadda yadda. i'll probably get 180SX lights/light panel for my future car, but i won't care. i'll call it what i want.

Nissan and all other car manufacturers got to name their car creations...

If i create, or modify a car to the point where it is not close to stock form I'll call it whatever i want...

it is no different that someone naming their car some chicks name... I chose Silvia.

My Suburban i called "the Jolly Roger" it was a big brown boat...

It irks me most when people call a hatch a Silvia, like we saw at Darknights, remember Brian

Originally posted by Dorikin
It irks me most when people call a hatch a Silvia, like we saw at Darknights, remember Brian

240SX hatchback with an S14 "silvia" script badge on the hatch, and the same "240SX" light panel as stock, right underneath it, and also an S14 "K's" badge on the hood. :rolleyes:

I call my car Legendary l)ragon... hows that for JDM baby... :pimp:

My car is a little closer to a Silvia than most of yours, but it's still not one. There are a few grey import Silvias around imported directly from Japan, and there are noticable differences.

Although mine's close to one, it's still not one, so I'll continue to call it a 200SX.

The way I see it is if they look the same, damn near drive the same, are only seperated my "minor" details... then they are the same.

RHD, LHD, NO BIG DIFFERENCE... just where you sitting... I would rather use my good hand rather than my naturally weak hand to shift any fucking way... the only reason people even care for RHD is because its different. So there is no real difference. Besides the engine.

just a noob question but when a car is RHD do the gears transpose on the stick shift. So 1st and 2nd gear would still be closer to you assuming reverse would be the farthest away? that would be an intersting change.

Originally posted by Myrrdex
just a noob question but when a car is RHD do the gears transpose on the stick shift. So 1st and 2nd gear would still be closer to you assuming reverse would be the farthest away? that would be an intersting change.

Gears are the same, pedals in the same locations.

so first is all the way over and reverse is right next to you .... wow i would have expected different but i guess that makes conversion a little easier. thanks for the info.

Originally posted by Myrrdex
so first is all the way over and reverse is right next to you .... wow i would have expected different but i guess that makes conversion a little easier. thanks for the info.

Yep, they would have to change the gearboxes from RHD to LHD when producing them. It's just easier to make one pattern and go with it.

jdm S chassis are different in USDM ones in many ways besides engine and Drive side....... I hear they have a different tuned suspension for a different ride, they have different brakes(nothing spectacular but they are a tiny bit bigger up front), etc etc....

It is not the same exact car with a different engine and some diff badges...

and take your 240sx and putting on that engine and badges still doesn't make it what it is. YOU OWN A 240SX BE PROUD.....


how many of you goto Japan? Speak Japanese? or even take your car to Japan?

we do you insist on copying something from another country? And its not cause u like it, cause if you liked the car, you would be going off about your 240sx, not your Silvia... some of you are just stuck in this JDM trend that is BS.

It has now transitioned into parts, engines, then badges, seats, wheels, and now we have to call our cars JDM names?!??! F that shit

:thefinger

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
jdm S chassis are different in USDM ones in many ways besides engine and Drive side....... I hear they have a different tuned suspension for a different ride, they have different brakes(nothing spectacular but they are a tiny bit bigger up front), etc etc....

It is not the same exact car with a different engine and some diff badges...

and take your 240sx and putting on that engine and badges still doesn't make it what it is. YOU OWN A 240SX BE PROUD.....


how many of you goto Japan? Speak Japanese? or even take your car to Japan?

we do you insist on copying something from another country? And its not cause u like it, cause if you liked the car, you would be going off about your 240sx, not your Silvia... some of you are just stuck in this JDM trend that is BS.

It has now transitioned into parts, engines, then badges, seats, wheels, and now we have to call our cars JDM names?!??! F that shit

:thefinger

I'll drink to that! :iagree: :cheers:

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
jdm S chassis are different in USDM ones in many ways besides engine and Drive side....... I hear they have a different tuned suspension for a different ride, they have different brakes(nothing spectacular but they are a tiny bit bigger up front), etc etc....

It is not the same exact car with a different engine and some diff badges...

and take your 240sx and putting on that engine and badges still doesn't make it what it is. YOU OWN A 240SX BE PROUD.....


how many of you goto Japan? Speak Japanese? or even take your car to Japan?

we do you insist on copying something from another country? And its not cause u like it, cause if you liked the car, you would be going off about your 240sx, not your Silvia... some of you are just stuck in this JDM trend that is BS.

It has now transitioned into parts, engines, then badges, seats, wheels, and now we have to call our cars JDM names?!??! F that shit

:thefinger :werd: :iagree:

:cheers:
I'll drink to that

you know people if you liked your car you would be proud of what you owned. YOU WOULD YELL HEY I OWN A 240SX AND YOU CAN EAT MY SHIT! lol..... these other people that just all em other names and want other badges, they are just bandwagon jumpers and shit


im an enthusiast.... If at all possible Id have a 240sx in 5 years from now still no doubt, a 1992 240sx in 2010 haha
and to think people thought we would have flying cars.

and also about newbies in rwd cars... that is so true... I've been driving a FWD auto for around 2 years now and Im still learning how to drive better EVERY day. if I look back no WAY could I have taken a 240sx my first year driving and tried doing some drifting, I woulda killed myself. hahah.. and I did get in a couple accidents even in my fwd piece. I am a lil crazy but thats besides the point. There are even people more worse then me at that kinda stuff. Atleast i take consideration of other drivers into my balls to the wall driving.

when dorikin said he was leaving he ment he wasnt going to answer questions anymore, he is still going to stay and find new things to bitch about

hmmm. lemme see..
#1) i dun care if its JDM or not. if there is no USDM model of the same car, then i will care, but in the 240's case, i dun care one bit if its JDM or USDM

#2) why is there such a big deal around JDM. i dunno about u, but i would like the gears i use the most to be closest to me, and there are a bunch of things i just dont understand about JDM and why its so tyte. there is enuff on the market for us to enjoy what we have for now. a little JDM here and there is fine, but too much JDM is basically paying a second time transform a car into one that is made available STOCK in japan.. i wouldnt wanna do that.

#3) read #1,2,3. :icesangel

I wouldnt worry about the ricers to much ... the 240sx yea is getting a little more popular because of super street and import tuna:loser: but who cares think about how hard it is to get most of the knowledge and parts and there cost compared to a civic that is dime a dozen ... most kids are ricers and most kids are basically broke or at least to broke to buy real parts...so they get a wak ass intake and bazooka for a muffler < because the coffee can look is SO yesterday> and call there civic JDM dont sweat it if your stressed about the car scene id love to live your life if thats your biggest problem because I could care less what other people drive or how they drive trendy or not ... anyways keep smilin and peep the technique

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
:cheers:
I'll drink to that.

Mmmm Beer:bigthumb:

I've said it once and I'll say it again: If it drives like a silvia, then why not call it a silvia?

Everything else is just aesthetics - the parts of a car that riceboys care about. If its "looks" or "authenticity" that you're worried about, then I think you've lost focus of what the silvia really represents - pure driving pleasure.

PS: I am proud to own a 240sx, but when I put a new engine and suspension on my car then I no longer have a vehicle that drives like a 240sx, so why call it that?

Originally posted by dayna240sx


Mmmm Beer:bigthumb:
yum i'll drink to that too
:spit:

well 240sx, 180sx, silvias' who the hell cares? its just a name! it is about how you DRIVE THE DAMN SHIT!

would you really care if you were driving a... uhh lets say is300 and altezza? same exact shit, "skyline" and g35? NO DIFFERENCE, its just a name, grow up about it.

"omgomgomg it isnt RHD, its garbage cos i like to kiss jdm ass..!" erf.. no.

sorry if i offended people and i know this post is offensive, but i just dont understand this childish behavior..

such as

"calling people names.. "

Just on the RHD issue- I drove RHD cars for about 13 years of my life- and I despise LHD :wink: It's a comfort thing- I drove an RHD Ferrari 575 earlier this year (LHD everything else) and loved having the Reverse away from me and the gears I use close to I hate LHD stalks as well- but most cars I have owned have had them so it doesn't matter..........................Either way- what I'm saying is don't diss RHD until you've driven it for 13 years

I am not dissing it, i am dissing the rhd fanatics that cant go without seeing a rhd car.. and thinks lhd is trash, lhd is fine.. rhd is fine.. whatever that gets the driver going is fine. i just dont get why people get sooo obsessed over rhd.. it just do not make sense...

Originally posted by Jimster
Just on the RHD issue- I drove RHD cars for about 13 years of my life- and I despise LHD :wink: It's a comfort thing- I drove an RHD Ferrari 575 earlier this year (LHD everything else) and loved having the Reverse away from me and the gears I use close to I hate LHD stalks as well- but most cars I have owned have had them so it doesn't matter..........................Either way- what I'm saying is don't diss RHD until you've driven it for 13 years

if we drove rhd for 13, yes we would love it.

but if u drove lhd for 13, yes you would love it just as much.

it has nothing to do with the car or the driving, it only has to do with preference. whichever driving side will not hinder a driver of what he's capable of, if he's comfortable - he drives well. and comfort is based on getting used to stuff..

so basically what im trying to say cause im drunk and stoned is, RHD is basically the exact same thing, its just ur preference/starting point that determines which side u like.

(unless of course ur left handed... :eek2:) *X-Files song plays in BG*