well dorikin stated it, and all us notice it. the once great 240sx utopia has turned into ruins. theres really no one to blame since us veteran posters have been even bigger asses to the newbs, while the newbs are even more disrespectful and stupider by the minute.

so here it is, (btw, this post follows the AF guidlines, read'em before posting) the official 240sx Forums of AF can suck my balls list. just go ahead and put the number after whoever posted above you if you agree with what i wrote above .im out of this place. later friends.



#1

i agre with you but im stayin for a whil untill my job is over on august 15 then ill stop by once in a while..
yea this place has gone 2 runis

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don't we have mods??? (ahem.. ike where are you?)

this place was cool up to about 3 days ago. hmmm

Originally posted by mynismo
don't we have mods??? (ahem.. ike where are you?)

this place was cool up to about 3 days ago. hmmm

what's wrong? i agree that this place sucks balls now, and i'm very seriousley considering resigning as 240SX mod because of the bullshit i've had to put up with lately.

all i have to say is i can't believe all of you that are leaving are just up and going because of a bunch of cocky hot headed little trend following 12 year olds. if you don't like them, just ignore it and it'll go away. whatever. take the easy way out and leave. it doesn't make much of a difference in my day-to-day life.

You guys do know that there is an Ignore list on AF, right?
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member2.php?s=&action=viewlist&userlist=ignore

Enter any usernames you wish and you will not even see their posts.

Originally posted by igor@af
You guys do know that there is an Ignore list on AF, right?
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member2.php?s=&action=viewlist&userlist=ignore

Enter any usernames you wish and you will not even see their posts.

exactly, thank you Igor. i completley forgot about this.

guys, any newbie who's pissing you off but isn't doing anything wrong enough to be banned, just slap him in that list and your problems will be mostly solved. i don't see what all the fuss is about.

you guys are seriously pissing me off with all this pissing and moaning..

"oh bo fucking hoo hoo, this place sucks now...."

Well stop fucking complaining, and do something about it...

When the going gets rough, the rough get going....

All some of you are doing is whinning and crying, back to mommy, it is easier and less work to just leave, rather than to make this a cool place again..

True alot of cool people left, but we have cool people here now, and although there has been a recent influx of assholic shit going down, lets squash it, put it behind us, and rebuild this... (on a side note, i like screwing with noobies and harassing asses like the vettefaggot)

So I'm not going to add a number to the end of my post...

If you don't agree, fine, you are a whinner, go ahead and leave, I have some rebuilding to do!

Originally posted by dayna240sx
you guys are seriously pissing me off with all this pissing and moaning..

"oh bo fucking hoo hoo, this place sucks now...."

Well stop fucking complaining, and do something about it...

When the going gets rough, the rough get going....

All some of you are doing is whinning and crying, back to mommy, it is easier and less work to just leave, rather than to make this a cool place again..

True alot of cool people left, but we have cool people here now, and although there has been a recent influx of assholic shit going down, lets squash it, put it behind us, and rebuild this... (on a side note, i like screwing with noobies and harassing asses like the vettefaggot)

So I'm not going to add a number to the end of my post...

If you don't agree, fine, you are a whinner, go ahead and leave, I have some rebuilding to do!

*applauds*

i wish i could've been the one to press the ban button on Vettefaggot. as long as he's gone, i don't care.

maybe if you put a pic of yourself in your signature, it would convince people to stick around since they'd have something to look forward to...

:biggrin: :thefinger

The problem is when I actually try to take care of things, and do more than shit talk, the mods give me hell.

Perhaps if some mods can let it slide, we can set the newbs straight.

Maybe we should form a 240SX Forums OG Crew, to mess with the bratty ones.

Daynas right, we need to save this place.

Brian and Igor, the ignore list kinda takes the fun away, cuz then you cant 0wn them for their stupidity


If you give-up the mod-ship, toss it to me. Ill straighten this place out :mad:

Originally posted by S13_Iketani


*applauds*

i wish i could've been the one to press the ban button on Vettefaggot. as long as he's gone, i don't care.

maybe if you put a pic of yourself in your signature, it would convince people to stick around since they'd have something to look forward to...

:biggrin: :thefinger

I can send one to Ralph if he wants to mod my already cool sig .jpg

Brian, Roby(if your reading this).

Drive to Maple and tell Ralph to mod the damn sig lol

you guys get a VQ and you'll see a totally different crowd.. older, smarter, and faster!!!

Originally posted by EPVQ30
you guys get a VQ and you'll see a totally different crowd.. older, smarter, and faster!!!

This is true for the most part in the WRX and RX-7 forums..

Usually people with more cash to buy more expensive cars do not not usually act as sophomoric as some of the displays we've seem recently..

Either way, I love my 240, and I'm not going to let a few ignorant prepubescent boys taint my feelings.

Originally posted by dayna240sx


This is true for the most part in the WRX and RX-7 forums..

Usually people with more cash to buy more expensive cars do not not usually act as sophomoric as some of the displays we've seem recently..

Either way, I love my 240, and I'm not going to let a few ignorant prepubescent boys taint my feelings.


:werd:

On a side note, concerning the WRX forums, I find its usually people like my cousin in their mid-late 20s who have stable jobs, and often times a family, and the WRX is something that is held in higher regard than a rice rocket or a 240, basically something presentable to the snobbier crowd, yet quick enough to satisfy the need for speed.

My cousins boss had a Porsche C4S, and after driving the WRX, I think he went and bought one for himself as a "toy car" lol.

Originally posted by dayna240sx



Either way, I love my 240, and I'm not going to let a few ignorant prepubescent boys taint my feelings.

exactly.

Either way, I love my 240, and I'm not going to let a few ignorant prepubescent boys taint my feelings.

LOL.. PREpubescent.. HOLY SHIT im dying on that one.
:bigthumb:

I can send one to Ralph if he wants to mod my already cool sig .jpg

well, the less pics, the easier.. it would be so cool if u can have a different sig in different manufacturer forums. :cool:

u know what to do, just pm them over.

Originally posted by dayna240sx
recent influx of assholic shit going down
haha good one, i gotta remember that :tongue:

The problem is this was a very n00b friendly forum until CERTAIN PEOPLE started talking shit to anyone who wasnt "in the know" about 240sx - as if it were their forum to begin with.

I dont know about AF's rules regarding age limits, but it's our responsibility to EDUCATE, not DERIDE these kids.

Originally posted by Fliquer
The problem is this was a very n00b friendly forum until CERTAIN PEOPLE started talking shit to anyone who wasnt "in the know" about 240sx - as if it were their forum to begin with.

I dont know about AF's rules regarding age limits, but it's our responsibility to EDUCATE, not DERIDE these kids.

age limit is 13. anyone who reveals they are lower is automatically banned, for security and discretion reasons.

CERTAIN PEOPLE wouldn't include me, would it? as i don't talk shit to n00bs unless they're down-right stupid or ask for it.

Not u particularly no.

wow...what happened here in the 240 forum:confused:

glad we don't have these problems in the civic/crx forum about posers:bigthumb: although answering the same questions over and over and seeing the same threads started has lead me to explore other ares of AF

Originally posted by dayna240sx
you guys are seriously pissing me off with all this pissing and moaning..

"oh bo fucking hoo hoo, this place sucks now...."

Well stop fucking complaining, and do something about it...

When the going gets rough, the rough get going....

All some of you are doing is whinning and crying, back to mommy, it is easier and less work to just leave, rather than to make this a cool place again..

True alot of cool people left, but we have cool people here now, and although there has been a recent influx of assholic shit going down, lets squash it, put it behind us, and rebuild this... (on a side note, i like screwing with noobies and harassing asses like the vettefaggot)

So I'm not going to add a number to the end of my post...

If you don't agree, fine, you are a whinner, go ahead and leave, I have some rebuilding to do!

thank you for stating this dayna, I give a big round of applause to you! And lets make this happen

I'm fairly new to these forums (read very) and this may not be the best forum ever, but all forums are abused. I'm used to game oriented forums which are full of 12-15 year old idiots usually. If you think this is bad, imagine vetteasshole's posts on a regular basis.

If you get a big enough group of people together, someone will always think it's a great idea to piss in the fire...deal with it!

Know what would make this forum better? More tech threads, stat!

And easy on the 'this or that is rice' and 'LOL, some Honda kid did this' BS...

i've read alot in the 240 forum cuz now with my rx7 gone i'm looking more toward a reliable car that i can work on (and nissan being one of the most reliable car manufacturers on the market this is where i go)... no i'm not interested in the latest trends or the popular ideas of what's cool on the car.. shit man i don't give a fuck (pardon my french) what my car looks like.. i fucking hate altezzas and i despise the fast and the furious... that trendy shit means nothing to me.. all i care about is when my car wins.. and if it doesn't win what i have to do to make it win.. i've always liked the domestic crowds in inside that crowd the find that the 240sx owners (real ones) share the same opinion as me... well i know one guy who's a real dick and owns a 240 but hey no group's perfect... i'm not a fuckin n00b that's gonna be disrespectful to anyone who knows more than me.. shit if i were that way i wouldn't have learned a god damn thing about rotary engines and my rx would've been fucked... figureatively speaking i'm a student and i want the backing of the veterans.. you guys are the ones that've been around and you've seen first hand what works and what doesn't work.. it's cuz of the people that did it all first that we who do it after them know the right way to go... most of the n00bs that post here that piss you off are just bratty lil kids that just say the fast and the foolishness and think they know what they're talking about cuz they heard a nonsensical rant that vin diesel went on about... basically i'm just saying that i'm seriously looking at 240sx's and in doing that i might ask for help... i'm not some bratty lil kid i know what you all've done... this is my sign of respect toward you previous owners.. i'm just asking that if i need some help on something you don't cast me off cuz those lil n00b sons of bitches were dicks.. peace

Originally posted by jay@af
Know what would make this forum better? More tech threads, stat!

And easy on the 'this or that is rice' and 'LOL, some Honda kid did this' BS...

Maybe if more than like 3 or 4 people knew shit regarding tech, that could work.

And Fliquer-Ya I talk shit, but some of them deserve it. Honestly, some people really shouldnt be driving these cars because they will put themselves in danger.

Then again your nice to EVERYONE, which is rare within the 240 forums.

Originally posted by Dorikin


Maybe if more than like 3 or 4 people knew shit regarding tech, that could work.

And Fliquer-Ya I talk shit, but some of them deserve it. Honestly, some people really shouldnt be driving these cars because they will put themselves in danger.

Then again your nice to EVERYONE, which is rare within the 240 forums.

Okay so, some of us "techs" should begin by assigning homework to the noobies...

I personally think the best way to learn how something works is to go take it apart, take notes, on what it is and why you think it works etc, and put it back together and hope it still works the way it did before.

That being said, I want all of you to go remove your EGR valve...

Clean it, and put it back on,
Your is likely gummed up with carbon/oil/whatever deposits and cleaning will,,, make your car run better.... because???

You post your answers...

w0w gone for a good 20hr. and shit already starting to change..
yea i been reading this whole thread and i agree it is up to us to make a better place. im also glad to see some of the regulars returning.

also some more tech questions would be nice but the most popular one's have been answered.. but im sure we dont mind answering them agian..

:bigthumb:

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Originally posted by dayna240sx


Okay so, some of us "techs" should begin by assigning homework to the noobies...

I personally think the best way to learn how something works is to go take it apart, take notes, on what it is and why you think it works etc, and put it back together and hope it still works the way it did before.

That being said, I want all of you to go remove your EGR valve...

Clean it, and put it back on,
Your is likely gummed up with carbon/oil/whatever deposits and cleaning will,,, make your car run better.... because???

You post your answers...

Thats a good one, but Ive got a better one for the newbs.

Go learn to drive first.

Go get an SCCA licnese or go to a track, and learn how to properly drive fast.

Most dont have 240s, much less cars. Imagine a new driver getting into an RWD car with no TCS or ABS, or in some cases, manual steering.

Honestly, people should get FWD or shit RWD cars and learn how to drive them first

Honestly, people should get FWD or shit RWD cars and learn how to drive them first

My first car was a 1990 Infiniti M30 that had 82k miles on it when i got it (I think it had ABS, but it definitely had no other driver aids like traction control). Certainly I did all the stupid 16-year old stuff (115mph on the highway, fishtailing in left-hand turns, donut in the school parking lot (I had had a bad day :P)), but I wouldn't condemn all new drivers to a front-wheel drive car simply because they have no experience. I agree that they don't need 300rwhp; the Infiniti had 162 at the crank (so that's probably about 130hp at the wheels, figuring 20% loss through the auto), and that was probably more than I, the testosterone-laden speed-freak 16-year old, needed. But I'm still glad I drove the RWD car first because at least now I know what I'm missing : ). I don't think learning to drive fast around a racetrack would necessarily provide one with the skills for safe driving on normal streets. Yes, racing school would probably teach you how to drive fast safely, but a regular defensive driving school or one of those new car control clinics would probably be just as beneficial to the new driver. Personally, I think distraction is more dangerous to the new driver than having RWD; I was so nervous when I started driving, I think I didn't even turn on the radio for the first three or four months. And now the kids have DVD players and LCD screens and whatnot? Oy...

The M30 is a big heavy luxo barge though, its not a peroformance car outta the box.

BTW props on your choice of first cars, M30s are great

Yeah, she was a rather portly stead at 3,333lbs (plus my fat ass). It was actually something of an accident that I got it. I searched and searched for an 80s model BMW 3 series, as that's what I had my heart set on. Of course, most of those bimmers were manual, and my mother strictly forbade me to drive manual for fear that I would stall pulling out of the neighborhood (blind curve). So, having shit luck finding an automatic BMW, I began exploring alternatives. I'm not entirely sure how I began looking for the M30. I know a girl at my school had a white one, the only one I'd ever seen, and I had seen but one M30 ad in AutoTrader. But one fateful day in the summer of 1998, while browsing the now defunct classifieds2000.com as I had so often done, I came across the car I would buy about two weeks later. I emailed the seller, and he promptly responded, sending pictures without hesitation. I was instantly enamored, as the M30 was far more beautful and infinitely sleeker than the boxy BMWs I'd been looking at. And leather interior? Bose stereo? It was overwhelming. I somehow convinced the parents to take the 30min trip to Greensboro to have a look at the car, and a week later, after the car passed muster with out mechanic, it was sitting in the driveway. That was a good day. I kinda miss that car, but I needed something with more room. And now I need something that gets better gas mileage (the Rover drinks 13mpg on the highway!). I'm also ready to get a manual transmission : ). I'm not entirely sure why I didn't buy that 240 I test drove last month. Something just didn't feel right. Oh well.

Originally posted by dayna240sx
Okay so, some of us "techs" should begin by assigning homework to the noobies...
Very interesting idea! :bigthumb: That way, the neophytes can either play along and actually pick up knowledge, and perhaps some understanding of what is and isn't important to this community, and those that want to be spoon-fed will simply remain lost until they decide to help themselves.

Dude you sold the M30 for a Disco? Boo-urns

Ah well, its all good

Originally posted by Dorikin


Thats a good one, but Ive got a better one for the newbs.

Go learn to drive first.

Go get an SCCA licnese or go to a track, and learn how to properly drive fast....
:iagree: :werd:

shit i learned to drive in a P.O.S. Kia Sephia... my family was goin through rough times and we put alot of miles on that lil thing.. now i'm glad i didn't go off right away and get a RWD with far too much horsepower for my young mind to handle... i actually was starting to like that kia... :bigthumb: but at least when i did move up to my rx-7 i went straight to the tracks with friends of mine that do autocross and just regular track events and i got the first hand knowledge of how to truly drive... it's not just a straight line... drag racing gets so boring :sleeping: :sleep:

Originally posted by Dorikin
Honestly, people should get FWD or shit RWD cars and learn how to drive them first

I agree, and disagree at the same time.

I myself learnt to drive in a FWD car, which was also my first car, and my 200 is my second car. Anyone, who hops in a new car, no matter if it's FWD, RWD or AWD and starts to drive it hard straight away deserves to be shot. I've had my S14 for just over a month now, and I'll admit that I haven't even come close to pushing it's limitations yet. I would be stupid to. You habve to be able to know how far you can push, and how far your car can be pushed before you start exploring the limits of your car, no matter who you are.

Originally posted by christofurr
I'll admit that I haven't even come close to pushing it's limitations yet. I would be stupid to. You habve to be able to know how far you can push, and how far your car can be pushed before you start exploring the limits of your car, no matter who you are.

:werd: :worshippy

Thank you for seeing my point.

Too many people think they can be some insane drifter or racer the first time out. THAT will be the downfall of drifting.

that's kinda why i'm glad i got my Pontiac. it's a crappy old FWD sedan. i had a 240SX earlier, but it was parked and needed too much work to be road-worthy again, which is why i cancelled the deal and got my money back. the Tempest is my first car that i've actually had streetable and used on a daily basis. so i've definitley learned to drive on this thing, but it will still be a big jump when i switch from an FWD push-rod V6 4-door automatic American car to a RWD inline-4 2-door 5-speed Japanese car. i know how to drive stick (since i was 10) and have driven many a RWD before, but driving one every day will take some getting used to.

Originally posted by jay@af

Very interesting idea! :bigthumb: That way, the neophytes can either play along and actually pick up knowledge, and perhaps some understanding of what is and isn't important to this community, and those that want to be spoon-fed will simply remain lost until they decide to help themselves.


WTF!!!!!!!!!


CLEAN YOUR EGR VALVE?

lady that would take most people on here and hour to do...

Im used to ripping out transmissions in 20 minutes LMFAO.....

It's kind of funny this thread- the bitchers and moaners finally realising that they can make this work together. I half-understand what people here are saying about learrning to drive RWD- I spent a fair bit of time in a friends Mk2 Ford Escort 1.1- now THERE is one hell of a fun way learning to drive RWD- and when my dad had a BMW 330i for a while I learnt a lot in that- even though it was riddled with computers. Anyway last Friday night for the first time in ages I go back to RWD when a made lets me drive his recently acquired R32 Skyline GTSt- and it was a doddle- really- I mean even coming from driving a cruddy RWD and a Computerised RWD- the GTSt was no different- a little ass-heavy- but thats only because they are crappily-engineered turds-on-wheels.


My point is- that most cars from the 60's and 70's were RWD- pick yourself up a scrap-yard special- head off to a near-by paddock and LEARN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I personally feel I am ready for my 200SX- all I need now is a shit-load more money :(

This forum can be improved- if the Techs remain- help the n00b's in spite of how annoying they are- send them in the right direction- fic thier wrongs and try and reman friendly- YOU make the forums- the forums don't make themselves:bigthumb: and you can make these forums much better than what they are- just by helping!!!

Originally posted by SR20DETpower



WTF!!!!!!!!!


CLEAN YOUR EGR VALVE?

lady that would take most people on here and hour to do...

Im used to ripping out transmissions in 20 minutes LMFAO.....

Yeah, so can I, and have the trans back in with a new clutch with in an hour while laying on my back in the paddock @Mid-ohio... I've done it twice.

How about a complete rear diff change while at mid-ohio from out of one car, into another in less than 40 minutes (maybe we should go work for a lemans or rally crew .... team Subaru here i come)

But my assignment was not aimed like experienced wrenchers like ourselves... it was projected toward our newbies, to give them a remedial task, that should be done periodically from a maintenance standpoint, as well as a way for the NEWBIES to get their hands dirty while learning the skills we've been learning and practicing since we were young...

But here, since you are a vetern to the wrenching world, GO get a 2nd gen RX-7...

Pull it into a garage, and start the stop watch,
8 hours later.... drive it out... after... yanking the original engine, completely rebuilding it, install new clutch, flush coolant and oil systems, and quickly detail the engine bay.... and putting the fresh engine back in.

Originally posted by dayna240sx


Yeah, so can I, and have the trans back in with a new clutch with in an hour while laying on my back in the paddock @Mid-ohio... I've done it twice.

How about a complete rear diff change while at mid-ohio from out of one car, into another in less than 40 minutes (maybe we should go work for a lemans or rally crew .... team Subaru here i come)

But my assignment was not aimed like experienced wrenchers like ourselves... it was projected toward our newbies, to give them a remedial task, that should be done periodically from a maintenance standpoint, as well as a way for the NEWBIES to get their hands dirty while learning the skills we've been learning and practicing since we were young...

But here, since you are a vetern to the wrenching world, GO get a 2nd gen RX-7...

Pull it into a garage, and start the stop watch,
8 hours later.... drive it out... after... yanking the original engine, completely rebuilding it, install new clutch, flush coolant and oil systems, and quickly detail the engine bay.... and putting the fresh engine back in.

glad to see you're back! :smile:

you might be happy to know that i'm very seriousley considering the purchase of an '87 TII at this very moment in time...

(the pontiac was wrecked last night :frown: )

well if you get a Turbo II, let me know if you have any questions about it. They are awesome cars! :bigthumb:

oh and your glad I'm back? Where'd I go???