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Imported S15 Silvias in the US


Schramproff108
07-05-2003, 09:31 PM
Does anyone here have a legally imported and registered S15 Silvia in America? If you do, could you explain how you imported it registered it and got it to pass emissions and all that other bullshit we have to put up with. Pictures would be greatly appreciated. Thanks


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Corupt_govt
07-12-2003, 06:35 PM
It would be cheaper to buy a 240sx s14 or s13 and do an s15 front end conversion then swap engines. Importing cars gets very pricey, especially if you want to convert the steering wheel to the left side.

spooleffect
07-14-2003, 05:02 AM
Having a US street legal S15 is next to impossible unless you have DEEP POCKETS, are an auto engineer, and know EXACTLY every single thing you need to alter to make the car comply with US safety standards.
After that it needs to be registered, smogged, and insured.

The other options is to import an S15 as an offroad vehicle only(race/show car)

JDM_USA
07-18-2003, 08:56 AM
Even though it would be nice having a JDM S15, I wouldn't want to go through all that bullshit. I agree with Corupt_govt, to just modify a 1997/1998 240SX. Not to mention modifying a JDM Silvia will cost you loads of money too (ie: JDM engine parts and such).

Schramproff108
07-20-2003, 08:19 PM
I agree with you guys. Way too much legal bullshit to take care of to make the car street legal. I'll just stick with the S15 engine swap with S14 tranny, strawberry face, and tails. I was also curious about the acceleration of an s15 as well as top speed. Are mods expensive and/or effective? I'd like to put all of the other import cars in my area-Hondas- (cough) to shame except this one kid who's got an R33. I think he's a member of this site. Also, does anyone know if Heavy throttle is a reliable SR20 importer? I am considering the S15 swap into a 97/98 240 and I'm tryin to find a shop that has had experience with this type of swap in the New York area. Thanks for your feedback

Schramproff108
07-20-2003, 08:27 PM
96GTR LM is the person near me who's got the skyline

themodelkid
07-21-2003, 03:13 PM
I know someone who has an imported Skyline,and its right hand drive, how did he get it over. The army shipped it for him from japan cuz that were he was stationed. (In the ARMY) Is it legal to run a right hand drive car in the US?:confused:

ThaLegend
07-22-2003, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Schramproff108
I agree with you guys. Way too much legal bullshit to take care of to make the car street legal. I'll just stick with the S15 engine swap with S14 tranny, strawberry face, and tails. I was also curious about the acceleration of an s15 as well as top speed. Are mods expensive and/or effective? I'd like to put all of the other import cars in my area-Hondas- (cough) to shame except this one kid who's got an R33. I think he's a member of this site. Also, does anyone know if Heavy throttle is a reliable SR20 importer? I am considering the S15 swap into a 97/98 240 and I'm tryin to find a shop that has had experience with this type of swap in the New York area. Thanks for your feedback You got 240sx??? or you want to buy one???

Schramproff108
07-22-2003, 01:19 PM
I want to buy one within the next year

Schramproff108
07-22-2003, 01:37 PM
In order for your friends car tot be street legal in the US he must have gone through MotoRex to legalize his skyline. Unless it is a show car or race car he must've gone through MotoRex. Rhd drive cars are not illegal in the US however in order for you to drive one on the road you must present crash test data for that specific car. You no longer have to do this for a skyline GT-R or GTS-T because MotoRex has already presented the results to the DOT numerous times. The reason you pay through the ass for the modifications done to the skyline is due to the millions the they invested in analyzing the crash test data as weel as performing the crashes at a DOT certified site. Each crash test costs $50,000. Not cheap now is it. Also, MotoRex is on a tight schedule as well, due to some stupid rule that only permits them to have the car in the country for a maximum of 4 months to perform all of the necessary changes to the Skyline needed to make it "street legal". Because MotoRex is located in SoCal they have some of the most strict EPA rules for emissions; so all skylines must conform to the stringent rules and regulations of California. IMO we need more RI's that can perform the same modifications as MotoRex at a more reasonable price so the common man can purchase a skyline without selling one of his kidneys. Or, if MotoRex took in enough revenue to compensate for all of the capital invested in making these cars street legal and then some, the public may see a large price drop. If more people purchased the somewhat affordable R32 from MotoRex then IMO they would eventually drop the prices. IMO if you don't have the money for a skyline then shoot for the next best thing a 240SX with an SR20 in it.
Later

Hudson
07-22-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Schramproff108
In order for your friends car tot be street legal in the US he must have gone through MotoRex to legalize his skyline. Unless it is a show car or race car he must've gone through MotoRex. Rhd drive cars are not illegal in the US however in order for you to drive one on the road you must present crash test data for that specific car. You no longer have to do this for a skyline GT-R or GTS-T because MotoRex has already presented the results to the DOT numerous times. The reason you pay through the ass for the modifications done to the skyline is due to the millions the they invested in analyzing the crash test data as weel as performing the crashes at a DOT certified site. Each crash test costs $50,000. Not cheap now is it. Also, MotoRex is on a tight schedule as well, due to some stupid rule that only permits them to have the car in the country for a maximum of 4 months to perform all of the necessary changes to the Skyline needed to make it "street legal". Because MotoRex is located in SoCal they have some of the most strict EPA rules for emissions; so all skylines must conform to the stringent rules and regulations of California. IMO we need more RI's that can perform the same modifications as MotoRex at a more reasonable price so the common man can purchase a skyline without selling one of his kidneys. Or, if MotoRex took in enough revenue to compensate for all of the capital invested in making these cars street legal and then some, the public may see a large price drop. If more people purchased the somewhat affordable R32 from MotoRex then IMO they would eventually drop the prices. IMO if you don't have the money for a skyline then shoot for the next best thing a 240SX with an SR20 in it.
Later

You're assuming there's a large market for this. If there was, don't you think that Nissan would want some of that action? They would have imported it themselves if the market existed.

Schramproff108
07-23-2003, 08:31 PM
True. Most people who worship the skyline are either too young too drive, have no money, or just aren't willing to take the risk. However throughout recent years importing the skylinehas become more common.

kkw4p
08-18-2003, 06:51 PM
Ok, let's say you have deep pockets and want to get an S15 over here (the US). How would you go about it?

I'm not sure it's more expensive to get an S15 over here than it is to swap in the engine.

Let's assume car costs are the same, shipping from Japan to the US is ~3K. 3K is a lot less than buying the 5K engine from Japan then paying someone 2K to install it.

Any comments/ideas? I've been wondering this for awhile.

Kevin

kkw4p
08-18-2003, 07:02 PM
I think I can get around emissions because I'm in FL. Getting it off the boat with a JDM vin might be a different problem.

Hudson
08-18-2003, 10:36 PM
I think I can get around emissions because I'm in FL. Getting it off the boat with a JDM vin might be a different problem.

You don't seem to understand that emission controls are a FEDERAL law. You will need to meet federal mandates to get the car through customs.

kkw4p
08-19-2003, 11:30 AM
That's what "friends" are for. I think I can get around the federal stuff. and there is no state law to get past.. so what other hurdles would i need to clear?

How would the issue of a title work?

nympfisher
09-04-2003, 02:42 AM
who says rhd cars are not legal in us ?

DC5R76
10-21-2003, 12:25 PM
It would cost you $32,000 to import a 1999 Silvia S15 spec R. to the US. Here's my contact info, call me @818-339-1805 or email nolimited76@yahoo.com. I'm currenty trying to import a silvia into USA

d3f4ult
11-11-2003, 12:53 AM
Motorex is asking insane amounts of money for all of it. I myself am hooked up with a guy in New Zealand that can give me much better deals on Skylines. One major thing that needs to be done to meet DOT standards is side impac door beams. I'll be ordering my 91 r32 gtr in the next couple of weeks. I'll worry about the rest when it gets here.

NYAH!

Also: emmissions are not nationwide. I live in Liberty, MO. We have a safety inspection and thats it. No emmissions tests.

ringthree
11-11-2003, 09:02 AM
In order for your friends car tot be street legal in the US he must have gone through MotoRex to legalize his skyline. Unless it is a show car or race car he must've gone through MotoRex. Rhd drive cars are not illegal in the US however in order for you to drive one on the road you must present crash test data for that specific car. You no longer have to do this for a skyline GT-R or GTS-T because MotoRex has already presented the results to the DOT numerous times. The reason you pay through the ass for the modifications done to the skyline is due to the millions the they invested in analyzing the crash test data as weel as performing the crashes at a DOT certified site. Each crash test costs $50,000. Not cheap now is it. Also, MotoRex is on a tight schedule as well, due to some stupid rule that only permits them to have the car in the country for a maximum of 4 months to perform all of the necessary changes to the Skyline needed to make it "street legal". Because MotoRex is located in SoCal they have some of the most strict EPA rules for emissions; so all skylines must conform to the stringent rules and regulations of California. IMO we need more RI's that can perform the same modifications as MotoRex at a more reasonable price so the common man can purchase a skyline without selling one of his kidneys. Or, if MotoRex took in enough revenue to compensate for all of the capital invested in making these cars street legal and then some, the public may see a large price drop. If more people purchased the somewhat affordable R32 from MotoRex then IMO they would eventually drop the prices. IMO if you don't have the money for a skyline then shoot for the next best thing a 240SX with an SR20 in it.
Later

I'm sorry this is not true. Motorex, basically lies about their "sole" ability to import and legalize Skylines. You can have any importer do it and they will usually be able to do the necessary emissions changes. The only real concern for a S15 would be to check and see if the car has been crash tested in the US, if it has and everything is square then you wont need to do anything else besides the EPA waiting periods.

Motorex has sold you a false bill of goods. Motorex did in fact do the crash testing but once that was done, one can import a Skyline and do the emissions changes and sell Skylines. There are alot of other companies that do that now, and at a fraction of the cost of Motorex.

One more thing about crash testing, the company that is importing them does not "analyz[e] the crash test data." The have to give the DOT 3 test cars and the money for the testing. The DOT does the rest.

I suggest that you do some more research on the subject before continuing to provide false information on the subject.

ringthree
11-11-2003, 09:04 AM
Motorex is asking insane amounts of money for all of it. I myself am hooked up with a guy in New Zealand that can give me much better deals on Skylines. One major thing that needs to be done to meet DOT standards is side impac door beams. I'll be ordering my 91 r32 gtr in the next couple of weeks. I'll worry about the rest when it gets here.

NYAH!

Also: emmissions are not nationwide. I live in Liberty, MO. We have a safety inspection and thats it. No emmissions tests.

But to be imported the car must meet EPA standards to get in the country. It doesn't matter where you live, they are federal standards governing international trade.

DC5R76
11-11-2003, 10:59 AM
and don't for get you have change from OBD I to OBD II, lets see how you do that.

d3f4ult
11-11-2003, 12:40 PM
hrmm the change to obd II, why must it be made?

DC5R76
11-11-2003, 02:07 PM
Man, you don't even know anything about OBD I or OBD II. or the process of importing a car. and you want get a GTR...good luck

d3f4ult
11-11-2003, 04:10 PM
how bout .. as apposed to being a @#$(*@# dick, you give me the information you obviously know. As I will be ordering the car later this week. kthx

DC5R76
11-11-2003, 05:32 PM
infomation cost money, that why motorex chages so much..STUPID

d3f4ult
11-11-2003, 05:35 PM
Man! you are such a genious. Good lord, sooooo glad there are intelligent people out there. GOD this forum is fucking useless

ringthree
11-12-2003, 10:08 AM
If this is the kind of information that is provided in this forum then I would agree that it is useless. But I will try to provide the information I can.

OBD is the environmental monitoring system used in the United States on all cars imported or domestic. OBD I was a less strict system than OBD II. OBD II was introduced in 1994, I believe but I could be remembering that wrong (it may be 1996).

Anyway, the point that DC5R76 was trying to make was that you would have to switch the car from OBD I to OBD II. This is incorrect as Japan used and uses a completely different environmental monitoring system. If they had used the same type of system you would only have to import the car, you would not have to do any emission changes.

So, now knowing that the car you wish to import does not have any kind of US emissions monitoring system (OBD I or OBD II), you will have to find a place for you to do this. Most car importers that bring in car for Japan offer to do this, they basically have to because they are not allowed to have the cars even leave their holding areas (the timeframe for this is determined by the EPA) until the proper changes have been made.

The claim that Motorex charges so much because of these changes is completely false, as any company can do this and have been doing it for longer than Motorex has been in business. Motorex charges more because they deceptively make claims that make them appear that they are the only legal importer of Skylines, which is just flat out false.

I hope that helps.

d3f4ult
11-12-2003, 12:51 PM
I am importing the car myself. Looking to do it more often and for other people. The obd2 conversion should just take a new ecu/sensors/harness for the most part(right?), then have to weld in DOT certified side impact door beams, and change all dash lights and panels from international to US standard. Now, I figured that the EPA would allow me to take the car fix it, and THEN let them test it.

Please respond(and THANKS for your help man. <3)

DC5R76
11-12-2003, 12:52 PM
oh yea..and all glass need to DOT approved too

d3f4ult
11-12-2003, 01:00 PM
glass is fine. tempered and right from the factory

d3f4ult
11-12-2003, 01:06 PM
glass is fine. tempered and right from the factory

Russia1
11-15-2003, 08:43 PM
there's a bit more to it than that...

any cars that you "convert" yourself won't be DOT legal until the exact setup that you're using has passed all crash-tests

sandrunner
11-16-2003, 11:38 AM
Just so you know. According to US Customs, the conversion to US spec must be done by a certified facility. You won't be able to leave with the car and just bring it back when your done. Overseas conversions aren't allowed either.

nacho_nissan
11-16-2003, 09:14 PM
I would like to get a s13 hatch,put a s15 front, sr20det, and get a really good suspension.How much do u think this will come up to?? I would also like a few things in my engine...

thegladhatter
03-01-2004, 03:47 AM
Don't hold your breath! You aint gonna see no S15s in the states in any kind of acceptable numbers.
http://img107.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/8/3/5/c211282001kts-imgbatch_1075050018/640x480-

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