Hey guys this probably isn't the right forum, but it is the most active :D

Ok here it is I'm looking to drop my accord around 2" on my 16" stock wheels. My car looks like a freaking SUV right now, and I want to take it down about 2" to kill that fugly fender gap; therefore, I think a 1-1.5" finger gap seems appealing to me. I probably don't want to go anything lower than 2" right now, since I do like ride quality. I'm not an all out racer as well.

What I need help on from you guys is to help me find a good Spring/Shock combo :D So far on the spring selection what would you guys suggest for the most moderate feeling ride? I'm currently thinking about getting the Eibach Sportline springs, but I'm a little iffy on the shock selection. I would really like a stock ride quality, if possible, and I know I can't afford the good stuff like Koni or those Tein SS so please keep that in mind and hollar out some "plan B" options- second best alternative. I've seen the Tokico Illuminas on ebay for less than $400 shipped :up: What do you guys think about these Tokicos any good? I would like to consider the Tokico Blues <because of price>, but i hear they suck? Why is there so much animosity towards Tokico shocks? Can anyone elaborate "why" for me?

Well guys, I appreciate all the help and your time for reading this post. I'm fairly new to the suspension game, so please help a newb out here. I promise, I just have one more off rant that has been itching at me. Ok, if my vehicle with the 2” drop by some chance goes over a big pot hole, bump, etc. am I going to be in big shit in serious repairs? I personally do go slow and at an angle right now, odd reason, but my fiancé does drive my AV6 quite a bit and she drives like crap; seriously, running over everything in site :banghead: Anyhow, second thought, will lowering the vehicle hamper daily street driving in anyway? If so how and what is so different? Lastly, this one worries me the most I live in Colorado and it does snow here, duh, will the snow create problems for me the winter time?

Thank you to the guys who offer any kind of viable help/advice to my situation.

As well, if you say you can get X product for X price please post where. Please don't leave me second guessing how the hell you got it so cheap :confused:

Thanks Again!!

For springs I would go Eibach Pro-Kit instead of Sport Lines. Do you have a coupe or a 4 door? EX? LX? For a LX 4 door you'll get about 1.5" F & R. I know this is less than the 2" you were looking for but given your concerns on ride and potholes these are the best springs for decent drop and good ride esp since we'll probably go with value shocks.

Going Eibach's with Koni's all around would put you at $844.00 plus shipping with the Pro-Kit alone being $216 plus shipping.

If you're not going Koni, I've heard good things on Bilstein & Tokico Illuminas but I don't have a lot of info on them.

Thanks! i actually have a 2000 Accord LX-V6 coupe.

I'm most likely getting the Tokico Illuminas with the Eibach Sportlines.

Can the Illuminas handle the sportline kit? How much harsher or difficult to drive is it to with the Sportline vs the Pro-kit?

Any idea of how much of a finger gap will be left on my vehicle rolling on 16" stock wheels/tires off a 2003 Accord EX I4? I'm looking for a gap of about 2 finger between the fender and the wheel.

I'll have to compare the pro-kits vs the sport lines again.

Also, have you heard anything about KYB? Some guys on here say they will out perform and outlast the Tokico Illuminas?

thank you again.

Don't have enough information to strongly recommend the Illuminas, recommend checking the Accord section of this site and/or other Accord forums to see what people have experienced.

As for gap we always measure from the center of the wheel to the edge of the wheel arch, so if someone is changing tires the same time they're lowering, then you can still measure the true effect of the lowering because the center of the wheel/hub never changes.


With 2 fingers being about an 1 inch, to get the drop you need, you should measure your current gap and see whether Eibach's 2" Sportline or 1.5" Prokit drop will get your there.

KYB AGX's would be a good choice if available but I would not recommend the GR2's with performance springs. i

Hello again.

I think I've decided to go with the Prokit, so does that mean I can go with more of a budget shock? I was now thinking something like the Koni red or Tokico HP

Koni doesn't make a red for your car, I don't have info on the Tokico HP"s. Eibach has a different opinion on performance shocks with the Pro-Kit, they say Pro-Kit can run with stock shocks but our experience and test drives tell us still better to go with performance shock.

Since the KYB AGX is not avaialble and you need to keep within budget best to go with either Illuminas or Bilstein if they have a compatible sport shock.

Best combination of course would be Koni Sports.

Cy hello again I'm back from doing some more research. I would just like to confirm this with you since tirerack sells the H&R line of springs.

What do you think about the drop of the H&R sport springs compared to the Eibach Pro-kits? I've read that he HR sport springs only lower the 2000 AV6 1.5" FR/1.2" RR. Although people on this forum are stating that in reality the drop is closer to 1.75"/1.5" can you confirm this?

What is the reputation of H&R? Do they have a 10yr warranty like Eibach and is H&R a TUV certified company? I'm just worried about the relability of H&R as a company. Many people seem to bash on H&R, but to me reading their website history they sound like a really good company.

I've also decided to not go with the Tokico Illuminas, but either with the Bilstein SP or possibly the Koni yellow.

thank you for your help.

The average lowering is going to be around 1.5"F & 1.2" R but there'll be some variance. Also the people with lower drop may have done other mods.

Both H&R and Eibach both make very high quality springs so you we be good either. What's more important is make sure that you match the spring with proper shock like the Koni Yellows.

CY:

O'm also looking to purchase a set of the H&R sport springs. I've been checking the internet and I have read that the H&R are much more harsher than the Eibach Prokits? Could you please respond to this comment?

I saw these at H&R listed at Tirerack, but i did not see the manufactures spring rates.

Could you please post the spring rates for both the Prokit and H&R sports?

I'm not looking for all out performance, but looks, comfort, and reliablity.

thank you.

H&R does not release spring rates. If you call Eibach Tech Support they may be able to provide them. Their phone number is 909.256.8300.

Both will ride well provided they are matched with good perfomance shocks such as the Koni Yellow. I recently set up my car with Koni Yellows and Eibach Pro-Kit so that would be my recommendation.