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Are BMW drivers assholes?2strokebloke 05-31-2003, 06:46 PM A long long time ago, at another forum far away - somebody posted a thread with the topic title Why does driving a BMW force you to drive like an asshole? Since then I began watching, and noticed that people who own BMWs do indeed seem to drive like assholes. Now what prompted me to write this post, was that today just while getting onto highway on-ramp, some asshole in a silver BMW sedan, fails to yield and almost runs me off the road (I had to slam on my brakes) the he proceeds to cut off another person (still on the on-ramp!) The most common form of "assholery" BMW owners engage in is the "sudden lane change for no apparent reason with out use of turn signals" Followed closely by the "sudden lane change for no apparent reason without use of turn signals while going twenty miles per hour over the speed limit." Another one is "cutting off another driver 20 feet before the highway off-ramp for no apparent reason other than to certify that they are an asshole" "Failure to yield because I'm an asshole" and "Failure to stop at the stopsign because I'm an asshole" are two more common offenses of the BMW driver. The there's the "I'm an asshole, get out of my way, I'm tailgating you for no apparent reason" and the "I'm passing you like an asshole over the double yellow line only to get in front of you and maintain the speedlimit like an asshole would" For all you non-asshole BMW drivers out there, I commend you. I'm not saying that ALL BMW drivers are assholes, I know from experience, and after ecountering hundreds of BMW drivers on the road that at least 2 out of every 300 BMW drivers do not drive like assholes. Please vote on the poll. Toksin 05-31-2003, 07:50 PM I have also seen a lot of BMW drivers who seem to think the indicators are just for decoration.... Hopefully I won't be that bad when I get my E30 :( Sierra Six 05-31-2003, 08:14 PM Indicators are there only as a buffer for when you run others off the road. ..Did I just say that outloud? :D gigatron 05-31-2003, 10:11 PM Well my paps when I was younger a long time ago owned a really tuned 323i bimmer ;) He is a very good driver, he used to race yes, but he would most likely bad mouth people who drive carelessly in traffic especially in say a city. He just used his best rationale if you will I dunno its just hard to explain. The only reason he tuned the car was because he wanted to feel like he had a low budget ferrari ;) (His dream car has been always a lotus esprit). He'd race his buddies who had also tuned cars but they'd do it on the highway (which were curvy too) but this was when we lived in Libya, North Africa. The roads are better then the German autobahn (glass race tracks lol, built by the Germans at higher quality -- due to weather conditions). Plus there were times when there was no one on the road for various reasons so it was almost all to themselves. Plus when coming back from work (there were different work times) they got their chance heh. Hmm the only people I've witnessed drive like total idiots in bimmers were younger people (I am very young so no stereotyping lol). I don't see many so.. I dunno. Most people around here are old guys who drive bimmers anyway haha... Most guys who drive wrecklessly or who build up an attitude seem to be honda drivers (no offense to the honda community this could very well be just my city/area). Two friends became anti-friends once they got their hondas lol.. they were .. well don't wana bad mouth them, but their attitude changed I felt a bit disapointed in some ways :/ Ah well.. I think it's just coincidences.. the car someone drives doesn't necessarily define their assholery heh. It's one's goal when they drive and character they build or something like that... What I see generally now around in my environment here in Canada where I am is.. basically this.. Every stop light everyone looks each other and pumps full throttle and boom fly off. LoL ok not everyone.. but its like a daily thing. Yes, I'm not denying my paps does that still but.. it's just different :/ Everyone's really agressive the goal is to show off in the majorest way and I think as young'uns the testesterone level is real high and that's what happens and where you get the idiots. Hell I admit it I would probably be a slight idiot at least a bit with my buddies but.. then somehow wouldn't I dunno.. So again it's not really a car thing.. it's just who's behind the wheel. The character and motive is what determines the driving. Are you driving to get from point a to b.. maybe to c as well and then backwards lol.. or are you driving to show off. Ah well I mumble too much :D HogieGT-R 05-31-2003, 10:53 PM i voted no because my cousin owns a 318ti and she doesn't drive like an asshole nor is she one my former driving school instructor drives an X5 and he doesn't drive like one Jimster 06-01-2003, 07:03 AM What the hell are those amber things on the top corner of the 5-series rear end anyway :confused: I have also noticed a high number of assholes driving SL Merc's as well No car is free from them :( Amish_kid 06-01-2003, 07:33 PM Yeah I know what you are saying and it just isn't Bmw driver's most every car with high value has an asshole behind the wheel, I don't know they must not think that regular rules apply to them and that " Hey Asshole this is a $100,000 vehicle so stay the fuck out of my way!" must be what is constantly running through their brain and spewing out of their mouths. Ohh well at the end of the day I'm still happy knowing that my dong is bigger than theirs. :D slave 06-01-2003, 11:42 PM Bloodyhell, look at the sterotypes fly about the post. So all the people with money or a Bavarian Motor Works badge drive like arseholes huh?? So why doesn't my best friend? She drives a BMW Z8, I guess she missed the asshole licensing day, because she more than fits your criteria to be one. gigatron 06-02-2003, 12:45 AM chill out :) Or you'll be a whatever car asshole. lol jk. Take it easy :) It doesn't matter what car is in question. I bet most of us don't know Mr. Bean ever owned a McLaren F1 and owns many other super cars we probably assume he only has that mini morris lol.. anywho. It depends on goal, motive, character and attitude inside the driver not the vehicle. I've seen rich old folks drive 20KM/h in a brand spanking new Benz that cost 200grand but hell.. slave 06-02-2003, 12:49 AM lol, or the fact that Rowan Atkinson bought it so he could be seen arriving in style to the birthday gathering of Prince Charles. Damn I'd love to buy a car like that just for a party. Jimster 06-02-2003, 02:04 AM Originally posted by slave Bloodyhell, look at the sterotypes fly about the post. So all the people with money or a Bavarian Motor Works badge drive like arseholes huh?? So why doesn't my best friend? She drives a BMW Z8, I guess she missed the asshole licensing day, because she more than fits your criteria to be one. a Z8!!!!! WOAH!!! Nice, how the hell did she get one of those in to Oztralia???:eek: 2strokebloke 06-02-2003, 07:26 PM Originally posted by slave Bloodyhell, look at the sterotypes fly about the post. So all the people with money or a Bavarian Motor Works badge drive like arseholes huh?? So why doesn't my best friend? She drives a BMW Z8, I guess she missed the asshole licensing day, because she more than fits your criteria to be one. Well if she engages in asshole like driving (lane changes without blinkers, etc,) and drives a BMW, then she does fit my definition of an asshole-BMW-driver. Otherwise she is either just an asshole, or a BMW driver. Ssom 06-02-2003, 07:31 PM lol- BMW drivers aren't the only ones- I notice that people in Skylines, Mercs, Honduh's and Rotary Mazdas have a high number of assholes behind the wheel in comparision to the number of drivers of the cars Jay! 06-02-2003, 07:34 PM On the freeway, all I see are assholes, in each and every car.... Haibane 06-03-2003, 10:39 AM What would make these BMW drivers classified as that, cause I at sometimes am a BMW driver, we own 2 so... gigatron 06-03-2003, 08:50 PM :rolleyes: The poll is for yes so far lol.. sad :p there are two honda driver attitudes i see, asshole and pussy. Just my town of what i've seen :p By asshole well not necessarily asshole but they TRY to be assholes and they try to act tough lol.. ah well :p Its kinda fun.. depends its just a testesterone thing ;) I'm a guy and all but like just chill' lol.. control yourself.. Most guys who own bimmers are old guys, and like who drive it crappy and assholery like are like .. 2/10 in my town :P slave 06-03-2003, 08:54 PM Originally posted by Jimster a Z8!!!!! WOAH!!! Nice, how the hell did she get one of those in to Oztralia???:eek: Her dad imported three of them. She bought one. 2strokebloke 06-03-2003, 09:46 PM Someting tells me I should have used this on april fools, instead of that stupid prank (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=95564&highlight=april+fools+important) I pulled... Prelewd 06-03-2003, 10:23 PM No asshole BMW drivers yet.. Most I've seen around here are women and old men with leather gloves on out for the joy of driving. J_Swigz 06-03-2003, 10:39 PM Originally posted by jay@af On the freeway, all I see are assholes, in each and every car.... And I thought I was the only one. boingo82 06-05-2003, 12:09 AM Apparently indicators are an option on many new cars, as about 50%-75% of the cars I see don't have them. Strange...:huh: crayzayjay 06-06-2003, 10:02 AM It’s too easy to say BMW drivers are assholes. Id read many times that some bmw drivers got to drive the way they do because of the way they are treated on the road themselves. We didn’t get much hassle when we had our 5-series so I didn’t really give this much thought… until more recently. My neighbour’s dad sells cars for a living, and they often have nice shiny new cars in their drive. I went for a cruise with his son, who’s around my age, so i could test drive a 330ci sport convertible (i was contemplating whether or not to buy one - a coupe) and have also driven their M5, and from these experiences, let me tell you this: 1. we got shitty looks from taxi drivers / the infamous white van man / and most tellingly, professionally dressed people in decent cars 2. no one would let me out of junctions, especially in the convertible 3. i got cut up on several occasions, which never happens in my Golf 4. finally, i was called a "fucking fag" at a traffic light by some idiot next to me, which let me just say im far from it, along with "cruising in daddy's car, are we?", which funnily enough was fairly accurate, but totally uncalled for... … overall the pleasure of driving these two wonderful cars and the looks we got from chicks - :D - easily overcame these irritations but they are certainly there, and they manifested themselves almost every time I drove the cars or was going somewhere with my neighbour… he has a 320 coupe and tells me he gets that kind of crap all the time. My colleague at work has an E46 M3 and gets a lot of shit from people on the road, which thankfully he can put the hammer down and they simply disappear… which probably pisses them off even more… the truth is there are a lot of assholes out there, some bmw drivers and some not, but what I do know for sure is that there is a lot of jealousy towards bmw owners, that is very difficult to dispute… and you know what, it’s a bitch to deal with. YogsVR4 06-06-2003, 11:35 AM Originally posted by jay@af On the freeway, all I see are assholes, in each and every car.... Only when they moon :bloated: 2strokebloke 06-06-2003, 12:06 PM Well I know that certainly assholes are not confined to BMWs, second and probably far more deadly are asshole woman drivers in SUVs (And yes I can honestly say that everytime I've seen an SUV speeding and cutting people off without using the blinkers - it was a woman behind the wheel) But seriously, assholes seem to be attracted to BMWs (or BMWs turn their drivers into assholes) Nearly everytime I've been in an accident trying to make a left turn, it's been because some asshole in their asshole BMW suddenly apears from behind the slower moving traffic, and then speeds at least 20 miles over the limit right when I begin turning into the intersection (and this exact same thing has happened so often it's begining to get creepy) Perhaps he was escaping from people who were insulting him for driving a BMW? - who knows? I just know that they were driving like assholes. Prelewd 06-06-2003, 05:46 PM Q: what's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW? A: on a BMW, the prick's on the inside.. ha... ha... ha... anyway... Not to big of a bastard BMW problem in washington. I know what it's like to get shit for driving a nice car. I washed my dad's jag, went for a drive, and was yelled at by some guy in a mid 80's hyundai for being a daddy's boy or some shit like that. like crayzayjay said, uncalled for. it seems to me like a jealousy issue. i'm just sorry the people that do that kind of thing can't get off their ass and earn themselves a BMW. it might be tough, but it's not impossible. crayzayjay 06-07-2003, 09:35 AM Its stupid to think everyone's jealous of BMW - the company and the people who drive its cars - but look at it this way, i just went into a non-bmw forum here on AF and deleted yet another idiotic "BMW - A car for people who no self respect! ! ! ! " thread that was bashing every bmw driver in the world... this kind of hate doesnt materialise without a significant amount of jealousy towards something/someone. That in my view is indisputable 2strokebloke 06-07-2003, 09:00 PM Perhaps for many people, but my dislike materializes out of just how little respect the majority of BMW drivers give other drivers on the road, which is not only stupid, but can be dangerous (the asshole who didn't yield when he was supposed to could have easily caused a large accident!) Being jealous of a BMW owner would seem to be a stupid reason for not liking them in general, but people who drive like assholes just piss me off. crayzayjay 06-08-2003, 02:49 PM Originally posted by 2strokebloke Being jealous of a BMW owner would seem to be a stupid reason for not liking them in general .. and there are many stupid people on the road :wink: Dorikin 06-08-2003, 03:06 PM My dad got a 530, and I find although he drives a bit more agressive, hes not a bad driver(doesnt cut anyone off, etc.) SUV drivers are the worst....And rice boys Prelewd 06-08-2003, 05:40 PM Originally posted by Dorikin My dad got a 530, and I find although he drives a bit more agressive, hes not a bad driver(doesnt cut anyone off, etc.) SUV drivers are the worst....And rice boys don't forget minivan moms.. gigatron 06-08-2003, 09:31 PM WOW and the poll is 9 to 8. LI Lady 06-08-2003, 09:34 PM I voted yes, but, I think Mini-Van driver's are the worst. :swear: :rofl: craigb 06-29-2003, 08:04 PM I've always suspected they are, the way they tend to drive 1 feet from the back of my ford station wagon (And no, I'm NOT a left lane hog, this is when I'm in the right lane, and driving at about the speed limit) until today however I never gave it much thought. While riding my mountain bike in a park today, a BMW driver, driving a BMW silver something yelled to me "get the f*** out of the way you f****** asshole" - This is while I'm riding my mountain bike in a park !!, with other cyclists and roller bladers, it wasnt on the highway. I'm not a hard-core auto-enthusiast, so I don't know the exact model of the car he was driving, other than it was a silver sporty looking bmw. So, I'm definately leaning toward yes, BMW drivers/owners are selfish, superficial assholes who think because they choose to spend their money on luxury cars it makes them better people than everyone else and more deserving of space / air / life / etc than the rest of us. Well, I hope people like this get what they deserve. and what they deserve isnt fine cars. Dorikin 06-29-2003, 08:38 PM Originally posted by craigb I've always suspected they are, the way they tend to drive 1 feet from the back of my ford station wagon (And no, I'm NOT a left lane hog, this is when I'm in the right lane, and driving at about the speed limit) until today however I never gave it much thought. While riding my mountain bike in a park today, a BMW driver, driving a BMW silver something yelled to me "get the f*** out of the way you f****** asshole" - This is while I'm riding my mountain bike in a park !!, with other cyclists and roller bladers, it wasnt on the highway. I'm not a hard-core auto-enthusiast, so I don't know the exact model of the car he was driving, other than it was a silver sporty looking bmw. So, I'm definately leaning toward yes, BMW drivers/owners are selfish, superficial assholes who think because they choose to spend their money on luxury cars it makes them better people than everyone else and more deserving of space / air / life / etc than the rest of us. Well, I hope people like this get what they deserve. and what they deserve isnt fine cars. Drive a BMW, and you wont talk bad, or think people who buy them are superficial The Ultamite Driving Machine Its only yuppies who want stus symbols who suck My dad worked his whole life to afford a 530i, and for good reason. its ont of thje best sedans in the world buymeabmwm3 07-15-2003, 09:19 AM I drive a bimmer in Detroit, and I think I'm the only sane one on the road. And btw, I hate this place. Never seen worse drivers or worse roads. And I'm from Jersey. bigredwolf 07-15-2003, 05:54 PM don't forget minivan moms.. I voted yes, but, I think Mini-Van driver's are the worst. LOL!! It takes all kinds. I've seen a lot of inconsiderate drivers on the road, regardless of make, model, or color. Oh yeah, and I drive a Mini-Van. zenongurl 07-20-2003, 10:15 PM [i think people that drive expensive cars think they own the road. Its a money issue so they think they can drive and act like assholes, like they have the power to. slave 07-20-2003, 10:29 PM Originally posted by zenongurl [i think people that drive expensive cars think they own the road. Its a money issue so they think they can drive and act like assholes, like they have the power to. Its a money issue? Please. My little Amy has one of these http://www.autovisie.nl/download/desktops/bmw_z8_800.jpg And she's far from an asshole and has no feelings of owning the road at all. A lot of people in this thread need to sit back and look at their tall poppy style stereotypical crap. Dorikin 07-21-2003, 10:14 AM Word. I should start a thread, are Honda drivers assholes, cuz some lil rice boy in his Civic(3ft. high wing, primered bodykit, steel wheels) cut me off after tailgating me? Come on, this is rediculous you'll find assholes anywhere. Now if you excuse me, Im going to enjoy the Ultamite Driving Machine 2strokebloke 07-21-2003, 03:07 PM Amy drives one hell of an ugly car. But seriously, the thread was meant to be a semi-joke, so take it with a grain of salt. T'was me letting off a little steam after an asshole in a BMW failed to yield and nearly caused an accident - then proceeded to drive like an asshole cutting people off and speeding. It's one of the few time in my life that I wished somebody would've suffered a flat tire so I could "help" them across the face with a tire iron. I would agree that in general, SUV drivers are worse, as they speed and tailgate, but I've rarely been cut off by one, so it's less infuriating. Interesting though, everytime I've been tailgated by an SUV or BMW, it was a women behind the wheel... slave 07-21-2003, 07:04 PM Originally posted by 2strokebloke Amy drives one hell of an ugly car. Lol, uh, yugo? Need I say more? :rolleyes: lol. Prelewd 07-21-2003, 08:17 PM Originally posted by slave Lol, uh, yugo? Need I say more? :rolleyes: lol. To each his own. slave 07-21-2003, 09:12 PM Yeah I know that, its all in fun man! cusky ss 07-21-2003, 10:36 PM there was a road rage survey done here a couple years ago and the bmw drivers tended to be the biggest pricks when it came to the common courtesy stuff like waving and crap, so yes, f*ck you bimmer drivers, not waving to me when i let your stupid ass in :swear: Dorikin 07-22-2003, 10:03 AM Fuck you Honda drivers for cutting me off and tapping bumpers and flashing high-beams. Im sure you dont do it, but you drive a Honda, just as I am curteous, and drive a BMW. Prelewd 07-23-2003, 04:02 PM You know what? Maybe there's a reason for cutting you off. Maybe YOU are the asshole for driving 5 under in the left hand lane, or maybe YOU are the asshole for having your blinker on for 5 miles and then finally deciding to change lanes as we figure you are just an idiot for not turning it off. How about turning off the off-ramp and then deciding this isn't your exit and merge back onto the freeway at 25 MPH. How about slowing down on the freeway before your off-ramp. How about this: Maybe YOU are the asshole? *This post was not directed at anyone here in particular, except for those that do the forementioned acts of stupidity and anything else that causes blinding road rage. TexasF355F1 07-23-2003, 04:15 PM Originally posted by Prelewd You know what? Maybe there's a reason for cutting you off. Maybe YOU are the asshole for driving 5 under in the left hand lane, or maybe YOU are the asshole for having your blinker on for 5 miles and then finally deciding to change lanes as we figure you are just an idiot for not turning it off. How about turning off the off-ramp and then deciding this isn't your exit and merge back onto the freeway at 25 MPH. How about slowing down on the freeway before your off-ramp. How about this: Maybe YOU are the asshole? *This post was not directed at anyone here in particular, except for those that do the forementioned acts of stupidity and anything else that causes blinding road rage. :iagree: :1: Dorikin 07-23-2003, 04:31 PM Originally posted by Prelewd You know what? Maybe there's a reason for cutting you off. Maybe YOU are the asshole for driving 5 under in the left hand lane, or maybe YOU are the asshole for having your blinker on for 5 miles and then finally deciding to change lanes as we figure you are just an idiot for not turning it off. How about turning off the off-ramp and then deciding this isn't your exit and merge back onto the freeway at 25 MPH. How about slowing down on the freeway before your off-ramp. How about this: Maybe YOU are the asshole? *This post was not directed at anyone here in particular, except for those that do the forementioned acts of stupidity and anything else that causes blinding road rage. You know what? Im very young. I cannot afford to cause acidents, piss people off, etc. I dont have my own car, insurance is very high, and I dont want to get into bad habits. As far as I know, its illegal to drive in the left hand lane, I only put my blinker on to get a fair amount of notice Im chaging lanes, and the way the off-ramps are situated, I cant merge back unless I want to plow the car into those water-filled cylinders. This thread makes me sick. 2strokebloke 07-23-2003, 04:32 PM Originally posted by Prelewd You know what? Maybe there's a reason for cutting you off. Maybe YOU are the asshole for driving 5 under in the left hand lane, or maybe YOU are the asshole for having your blinker on for 5 miles and then finally deciding to change lanes as we figure you are just an idiot for not turning it off. How about turning off the off-ramp and then deciding this isn't your exit and merge back onto the freeway at 25 MPH. How about slowing down on the freeway before your off-ramp. How about this: Maybe YOU are the asshole? *This post was not directed at anyone here in particular, except for those that do the forementioned acts of stupidity and anything else that causes blinding road rage. Would all seem fine and dandy, but if you read the first post in this thread, you'd know already that to be an asshole you have to cut off somebody for no apparent reason, usually while going 20 over the speed limit. Truthfully, watch BMW drivers on the highway, you'll see it all the time. There's no reason, ever, to not use the blinkers. (and not using them makes you an asshole, regardless of what you're driving) Dorikin 07-23-2003, 04:38 PM Why do people hate BMW drivers? Sure, there are some morons, but you will find that with any type of car, no? I know my dad bought the BMW, not to have a status symbol, but because its the best sedan in its class(if not the world). I find 7 series and X5 drivers to be the worst out of all BMW drivers though. Prelewd 07-23-2003, 08:04 PM Everyone seems to be getting the wrong impression from the blinker statement. I'm talking about the people that drive with it on constantly, or forget to turn it off might be a more understandable sentence. You sit there and sit there and sit there, and they don't move over. Once you do decide to pass them, it's time for them to get over and they get all pissy about it. I don't cut people off for no reason.. in fact, I'd have to have a DAMN GOOD reason to do so. Like if some asshole damn near causes an accident. Just the other day, the company I work for as a web designer was telling me about some asshole that decided to merge back on the freeway from a dead stop in front of one of their truck and trailers. This caused the driver to jackknife the trailer, almost cause a multiple car accident, and caused thousands of dollars worth of damage to the trailer. The driver of the car didn't stop at all. THIS IS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT NEEDS TO BE CUT OFF. I don't know about your off ramps, but we give our idiots the freedom to merge back on.. at least for a little while. Oh, and it's not illegal to drive in the left lane here. Seriously, come on now.. Dorikin 07-24-2003, 07:02 PM I noticed today... I belive myself and my dad are the only BMW drvers who signal... ugly kid jon 07-29-2003, 07:35 PM Originally posted by 2strokebloke Would all seem fine and dandy, but if you read the first post in this thread, you'd know already that to be an asshole you have to cut off somebody for no apparent reason, usually while going 20 over the speed limit. Truthfully, watch BMW drivers on the highway, you'll see it all the time. There's no reason, ever, to not use the blinkers. (and not using them makes you an asshole, regardless of what you're driving) The only assholes I see are those mediocre assholes pushing Yugos. 2strokebloke 07-29-2003, 11:40 PM Yeah, I hate those kind of assholes too. i prefer to drive my Yugo. :biggrin2: - jackass. Jimster 07-30-2003, 04:25 AM Originally posted by 2strokebloke Yeah, I hate those kind of assholes too. i prefer to drive my Yugo. :biggrin2: - jackass. As an ex-Yugo owner I'd like to step in with a little :owned: ugly kid jon 07-30-2003, 12:04 PM Originally posted by 2strokebloke Yeah, I hate those kind of assholes too. i prefer to drive my Yugo. :biggrin2: - jackass. you're the first Yugo owner Ive seen that drives his yugo :thefinger you asshole ugly kid jon 07-30-2003, 12:07 PM Originally posted by Jimster As an ex-Yugo owner I'd like to step in with a little :owned: You're the same mediocre jerk as the previous one, driving those shitty Italian cars that are so bad they aren't even sold in the US, mediocre freakray 07-30-2003, 12:25 PM Originally posted by ugly kid jon You're the same mediocre jerk as the previous one, driving those shitty Italian cars that are so bad they aren't even sold in the US, mediocre Don't plan on staying for too long? 2strokebloke 07-30-2003, 02:19 PM Ugly, something tells me you should own a BMW. (something also tells me to tell you that insulting moderators is not a smart idea) Dorikin 07-30-2003, 11:37 PM Originally posted by 2strokebloke Ugly, something tells me you should own a BMW. (something also tells me to tell you that insulting moderators is not a smart idea) WTF is up with all this BMW hating?? Honestly, Ive seen more assholes in everyday cars than BMWs(bar X5 drivers, they suck) boingo82 08-01-2003, 02:41 PM Originally posted by Prelewd ......This caused the driver to jackknife the trailer, almost cause a multiple car accident, and caused thousands of dollars worth of damage to the trailer. The driver of the car didn't stop at all. THIS IS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT NEEDS TO BE CUT OFF. ... I agree completely. Cutting people off ALWAYS circumvents accidents and is recommended by the NHTSA and the IIHS as a surefire way of teaching bad drivers to be good ones. :rolleyes: But seriously, if someone cuts you off, almost causing an accident (as happened to my family) just dial *11 on your cell and report the bastard. We did, and he ended up with $1900 in tickets. Prelewd 08-01-2003, 08:48 PM Originally posted by boingo82 I agree completely. Cutting people off ALWAYS circumvents accidents and is recommended by the NHTSA and the IIHS as a surefire way of teaching bad drivers to be good ones. :rolleyes: But seriously, if someone cuts you off, almost causing an accident (as happened to my family) just dial *11 on your cell and report the bastard. We did, and he ended up with $1900 in tickets. I'll keep that in mind next time I'm slamming on the brakes trying to avoid dumbasses. BTW: you live in the states Boingo? BTW2: an X5 was riding my ass yesterday on the freeway at 75mph. boingo82 08-01-2003, 09:10 PM Originally posted by Prelewd I'll keep that in mind next time I'm slamming on the brakes trying to avoid dumbasses. BTW: you live in the states Boingo? Um, loosely defined, yes. Utah. Not that I'll admit it, though. Originally posted by Prelewd BTW2: an X5 was riding my ass yesterday on the freeway at 75mph. Call in the h.p. and tell them the guy was tailgating. I had a jerk in an Altima 3 ft off my bumper at 75 once, and called the h.p. on him. They caught up to him as he was tailgating someone else, speeding, and swerving in and out of traffic w/out signalling. Tickets: Reckless driving (about $400) Not signalling ($150 or something) Speeding 15+mph in excess of the limit (about $200) I didn't even have to give a statement. A tip: when giving your statement to the cops, make sure you don't show any agression to the other driver, just worry/dismay/incredulity. Both examples I've given, the offending driver was still acting very agressive after being pulled over. Think about it: If the cop is listening to two people, and one of them is calm and reasonable but shaken, and the other is threatening to beat up the shaken guy, which person looks like the speeding tailgating agressive driver? BTW, I visited Seattle last Oct., and it was beautiful. BMWcruzer 08-11-2003, 02:31 AM Hello. I was just posting a reply to all those who stereotype us BMW drivers as "assholes". NO NO...that is ENTIRELY NOT true at all. I'll tell you what is true...is the attitude WE get off non-BMW drivers!!! I am 19 and since I was 16 owned two new BMW's...one convertible and now a coupe. LISTEN TO THIS...the other day I was in a car wash (self service) and some guys vacuming their truck throws firecrackers in the stall! YES LIGHTED FIRECRACKERS. AND...how about this...going down the road and having other people give you the finger, or look at you like your some kind of alien. I mean it...I don't know if its jealousy or what...but it is ABSOLUTLEY NOT CALLED FOR. The first BMW was white with tan interior and BMW chrome rims...a very flashy car, so I decided to go for another one to see if attitudes change. I now have a new black BMW coupe with black leather and black tinted windows. Last month...a guy in the city pulled up next to me and gave me the finger and just ran the redlight a jumped on the freeway. He was shocked when I ran it right behind him and speed up to catch him! Pulled up right beside his drivers door (now running about 110 mph)...he knew there was no way of out-running me. THEN (being the BMW jerk that most people pre-determine) rolled down my window and showed the driver of the truck a toy of mine. After that...he ran completely off the freeway down into some bushes!!! SO let that be a lesson...IM NOT THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE. Lets all respect each other on the roads! :wink: Prelewd 08-11-2003, 03:23 AM Originally posted by BMWcruzer THEN (being the BMW jerk that most people pre-determine) rolled down my window and showed the driver of the truck a toy of mine. ... Lets all respect each other on the roads! :wink: Or.. let's just respect the guy that flashes his gun at you.. :screwy: Unless, by toy, you mean dildo or something.. Jimster 08-11-2003, 03:58 AM Originally posted by Prelewd Or.. let's just respect the guy that flashes his gun at you.. :screwy: Unless, by toy, you mean dildo or something.. I dunno- it'd be a damn compromising position when driving- pulling dildo out of ass and then flash it= dangerous. Anyway BMWCruzer- you just sound like another spoilt BMW brat :rolleyes: Prelewd 08-11-2003, 05:23 AM Yea, I agree with Jimster.. BMWcruzer isn't helping his cause. 2strokebloke 08-11-2003, 01:53 PM Let us analyze this post, shall we? Originally posted by BMWcruzer Hello. I was just posting a reply to all those who stereotype us BMW drivers as "assholes". NO NO...that is ENTIRELY NOT true at all. I'll tell you what is true...is the attitude WE get off non-BMW drivers!!! I am 19 and since I was 16 owned two new BMW's...one convertible and now a coupe. So far nobody cares. LISTEN TO THIS...the other day I was in a car wash (self service) and some guys vacuming their truck throws firecrackers in the stall! YES LIGHTED FIRECRACKERS. I would've been so pissed off, if one of those firecrackers went off near my fine Yugoslavian driving machine! Think about the rediculously small, unnoticeable amount of soot it could have left on it's finely engineered paint!? AND...how about this...going down the road and having other people give you the finger, or look at you like your some kind of alien. I mean it...I don't know if its jealousy or what...but it is ABSOLUTLEY NOT CALLED FOR. Maybe they know you from somewhere else and already don't like you? As for getting stared at like an alien, I get that all time with the Yugo - but you driving a car so boring as a BMW, must in fact be an alien. The first BMW was white with tan interior and BMW chrome rims...a very flashy car My in your teens, and already having a midlife crisis!, so I decided to go for another one to see if attitudes change. I now have a new black BMW coupe with black leather and black tinted windows. What you really need is a ford model T - paint it black! Last month...a guy in the city pulled up next to me and gave me the finger and just ran the redlight a jumped on the freeway. That makes him an asshole He was shocked when I ran it right behind him and speed up to catch him! Pulled up right beside his drivers door (now running about 110 mph)...he knew there was no way of out-running me. THEN (being the BMW jerk that most people pre-determine) rolled down my window and showed the driver of the truck a toy of mine. After that...he ran completely off the freeway down into some bushes!!! I thought you were trying to tell us that you were not an asshole - what gives? YOU ARE an asshole! SO let that be a lesson...IM NOT THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE. Yes this is the problem, there are too many assholes. Lets all respect each other on the roads! :wink: I'm ready when you are bub. YogsVR4 08-11-2003, 02:13 PM 2strokebloke :worshippy Prelewd 08-11-2003, 02:15 PM I'll give him credit for the firecracker thing. I'd be pretty pissed about that.. My question is though, why didn't he just get out his dildo and chase them down? ricardonz 08-27-2003, 05:13 AM not so much assholes just a little uninspired bella, now she will drive alfas....see shes looking for corners already.. http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/204658acoupleofdribblers.....jpg copmy 11-03-2009, 02:21 AM Thank you for your post. 9 out of 10 BMW drivers are asshole drivers. I have not yet seen one BMW driver yield or stop for anyone. I drive a service van everyday, and I can prove it. They never let you into the lane even with the signal miles ahead. What's up with that? Sorry to say this. But Yeah... BMW driver are asshole driver. MagicRat 11-04-2009, 10:03 PM Wow, old thread. I hate to stereotype anyone, but, at leat around here, BMW has the highest lease rate of any major car manufacturer. That is, more than any other make, BMW owners want to own one but cannot afford to buy one. So, instead of buying a more modest car that fits their budget better, they sacrifice and scrape to make the monthly payment just so they can show-off. And imo, these egocentric, insecure people love to drive like self-centered assholes, too. That being said, I used to own a BMW, and it got me more admiring looks and comments than anything else (except my GTO). And they are so nice to drive, I would love to have another. :) cramer_77 11-04-2009, 11:12 PM Oh damn where do i start. I do have to say not ALL BMW drivers are that way. The ex girlfriends dad bought one about 3 months before we broke up and i have to say he was just like any other normal person out there, actually one of the nicer people i have ever met. But he didn't let it get to his head. But i can say this next time a "luxury" car cuts me up, im gonna be ramming a 5600lbs silverado up his tail pipe. Not sure what kind it was but it was a coupe and relatively new, and im by no means a city boy, from the country born and raised and won't ever change it either, drive a 01 silverado 2500hd, not a small truck by no means. Well he decided he wanted the lane i was in so he just kinda took it when we came to a stop at the intersection i put the brush guard about 8 inches from his trunk and just sat there and smiled real big. I finally got next to him and noticed he was talking on his damn phone, so me being the nice guy i am put the back bumper of my truck right about his window, and awkwardly enough thats where the 152db train horn is mounted :iceslolan. Scared the crap out of him thats for sure. Moral of the story is why do luxury car drivers think they own the road, they think they are invincible, well lets see ya put that car in the dirt rectangle with me and my derby car :iceslolan then well see who wins. I just don't get people sometime, i mean yeah i have made a few mistakes on the road a few times but i will actually apologize for it if i see the person again. Lets see you BMW drivers do that. Pull your head out of your richy rich, spoiled a** and realize that your a person just like everyone else on the road, cause on of these days your gonna cut the wrong person off and there either gonna flatten a tire or park on top of your car. serge_saati 11-19-2009, 10:50 PM I already drove a BMW 335i fast, but not in an asshole way. I'm very prudent. Shpuker 11-21-2009, 03:12 AM Yet you can't put together a sentance........ Shit I'm caught :D Have to admit thats generally true. Amazing vehicles though But no I do not constantly engage in ass holing....... whats that have to do with cars? serge_saati 11-21-2009, 10:56 AM In my area, the peoples who drive a BMW go slowly and don't overtake anybody. Which is weird. The one who drive like an asshole are the Mazda 3 drivers. When I check in my rear mirror, I often see a Mazda 3 sticked in my back that want to go faster. When it gets the chance, it overtake me the fast as possible like if it was touring car a race. When I want to change lane, I always check at back if there's no Mazda 3 behind, so I'll no hit it in changing lane (if it overtake at same time). I found these cars very dangerous in the road. Damn, it's the car that sold the most here. Shpuker 11-21-2009, 04:04 PM Dear god. Hit that SOB with the grammar stick serge_saati 11-21-2009, 08:28 PM What is the problem with my grammar SOB??? DropZone77 11-21-2009, 08:35 PM The real A-holes are not just the BMW people, but are the people who are on their phones talking and text messaging while they are not paying attention to the road that they are driving on :smokin: serge_saati 11-21-2009, 11:18 PM Dear god. Hit that SOB with the grammar stick I only forget 2 "s" and another word also. I don't deserve this insult for that. Next time, you'll get severe problems. MagicRat 11-21-2009, 11:32 PM Dear god. Hit that SOB with the grammar stick Jesus, shpuker, let's hit you with a tolerance stick. :tongue: If you are trying to be funny, lets use some of these :) :) :) okay? Serge is from Montreal. Look it up. Since his English is a hell of a lot better than my French, I have no problem with it. Ad neither should you. serge_saati 11-22-2009, 02:16 PM Thanks MagicRat. Shpuker 11-23-2009, 03:22 AM In my area, the peoples who drive a BMW go slowly and don't overtake anybody. Which is weird. The one who drive like an asshole are the Mazda 3 drivers. When I check in my rear mirror, I often see a Mazda 3 sticked in my back that want to go faster. When it gets the chance, it overtake me the fast as possible like if it was touring car a race. When I want to change lane, I always check at back if there's no Mazda 3 behind, so I'll no hit it in changing lane (if it overtake at same time). I found these cars very dangerous in the road. Damn, it's the car that sold the most here. Here I'll fix it for you In my area, the BMW drivers go slow and don't cut anyone off. Which is weird. The ones who drive like assholes are the Mazda 3 drivers. When I check in my rear mirror, I often see a Mazda 3 stuck in my back end that wants to go faster. When they get the chance, they overtake me as fast as possible like their in a race. When I want to change lanes, I always check behind me to make sure there are no Mazda 3's behind me, so I don't get hit when changing lanes (if they overtake me at same time). I find these cars very dangerous in the road. Damn, it's the car that sold the most here. Hell of a lot more than a few s'........ *dodges the tolerance stick* close one :licka: Shpuker 11-23-2009, 03:23 AM The real A-holes are not just the BMW people, but are the people who are on their phones talking and text messaging while they are not paying attention to the road that they are driving on :smokin: AKA you? akboss 11-23-2009, 10:06 AM Dear god. Hit that SOB with the grammar stick hey, you spelled grammar right this time. serge_saati 11-23-2009, 11:11 AM ok, the correction is good. I hate grammar. Shpuker 11-23-2009, 07:34 PM hey, you spelled grammar right this time. Lol probably a good thing Bimmerdude 01-28-2010, 08:22 PM I really don't think BMW drivers are assholes, i think it is the car. BMW cars are one of the greatests cars out there. Just imagine a road filled with Big Cargo Trucks that are sluggish and you are the only car driving on the road. You, in a Honda or a Toyota will overtake these cargo trucks right? This is the same feeling any driver feels once he gets his hands on a BMW on any road, any day even when there are no truks. Also, just imagine how much traffic will be a lot better if all cars on the road are BMW's regardless of the driver. Police cars should be M5's not american junk. Sorry, you just can't help it, it's the car, not the driver. serge_saati 01-28-2010, 08:25 PM Not all BMW models are that fast. Some are only 200HP. Crown Victoria is better for dodging. Bimmerdude 01-28-2010, 08:49 PM if you read my post, it said M5. M5's are a lot faster than Crown Victoria's. and this is only in a fantasy world where all cars are BMW's. Please re read my post Not all BMW models are that fast. Some are only 200HP. Crown Victoria is better for dodging. serge_saati 01-28-2010, 09:54 PM if you read my post, it said M5. M5's are a lot faster than Crown Victoria's. and this is only in a fantasy world where all cars are BMW's. Please re read my post ...This is the same feeling any driver feels once he gets his hands on a BMW on any road, any day even when there are no truks. Also, just imagine how much traffic will be a lot better if all cars on the road are BMW's regardless of the driver. ... No you didn't mention M5 specifically. I talked about traffic. Police car is another comment. M5 is not appropriate for car dodging. Bimmerdude 01-28-2010, 11:49 PM i got ya dude. No you didn't mention M5 specifically. I talked about traffic. Police car is another comment. M5 is not appropriate for car dodging. Shpuker 01-29-2010, 12:28 AM Not all BMW models are that fast. Some are only 200HP. Crown Victoria is better for dodging. Its not that the Crown Vic is better suited, cause its not. But can you imagine the Police spending $50,000 on every single car... and just imagine the repair bills. They don't leave the engines in them stock anyway. The Crown vis are just really big, fairly fast, durable, cheap cars. akboss 01-29-2010, 08:33 AM I really don't think BMW drivers are assholes, i think it is the car. BMW cars are one of the greatests cars out there. Just imagine a road filled with Big Cargo Trucks that are sluggish and you are the only car driving on the road. You, in a Honda or a Toyota will overtake these cargo trucks right? This is the same feeling any driver feels once he gets his hands on a BMW on any road, any day even when there are no truks. Also, just imagine how much traffic will be a lot better if all cars on the road are BMW's regardless of the driver. Police cars should be M5's not american junk. Sorry, you just can't help it, it's the car, not the driver. ...until the guy in the AMG Mercedes blows the doors of your BMW. Or the guy in the Maserati, or the Ferrari, or the Lamborghini, or the SRT8 Dodge, or the Shelby Ford, or the SS Chevy, or a Porsche, or any of the other faster and more agile cars. You sir have proven why 'not all' but most BMW drivers are seen as assholes - the self-entitlement of driving 'the best', based solely on their own perception of their vehicle and self entitlement. Surely BMW makes excellent cars, I would love to buy a 2-3 year old 328i or 535xi, but I would not consider myself any better because I was behind the wheel of that car. In short, BMW's do not create assholes, assholes just tend to buy BMW's. Oh, and if Americans used M5's as police cars, we would first off be broke, and secondly after the first week they wouldn't have any cars left. The life of a police car is punishing duty, and the first curb the officer drove over would cripple the Bimmer - Crown Vic's are body-on-frame tanks that are basically a car body on top of a pickup truck, which means 'tough'. drunken monkey 01-29-2010, 11:24 AM ...until the guy in the AMG Mercedes blows the doors of your BMW. Or the guy in the Maserati, or the Ferrari, or the Lamborghini, or the SRT8 Dodge, or the Shelby Ford, or the SS Chevy, or a Porsche, or any of the other faster and more agile cars. that's why the Police have radios, helicopters, stinger traps etc etc. akboss 01-29-2010, 02:59 PM Ya, no I wasn't assuming any kind of car can evade the police, just referring to the whole 'when you're in a BMW everybody else is as slow as a truck' thing - lots of cars do that. Bimmerdude 01-30-2010, 12:18 AM My statement was merely an experiment as to how people would react. In response to what you said, the question then is; why do most assholes like driving BMW's? What is it with these cars that assholes tend to like them more than the others? Why the BMW? ...until the guy in the AMG Mercedes blows the doors of your BMW. Or the guy in the Maserati, or the Ferrari, or the Lamborghini, or the SRT8 Dodge, or the Shelby Ford, or the SS Chevy, or a Porsche, or any of the other faster and more agile cars. You sir have proven why 'not all' but most BMW drivers are seen as assholes - the self-entitlement of driving 'the best', based solely on their own perception of their vehicle and self entitlement. Surely BMW makes excellent cars, I would love to buy a 2-3 year old 328i or 535xi, but I would not consider myself any better because I was behind the wheel of that car. In short, BMW's do not create assholes, assholes just tend to buy BMW's. Oh, and if Americans used M5's as police cars, we would first off be broke, and secondly after the first week they wouldn't have any cars left. The life of a police car is punishing duty, and the first curb the officer drove over would cripple the Bimmer - Crown Vic's are body-on-frame tanks that are basically a car body on top of a pickup truck, which means 'tough'. E46330iguy 01-30-2010, 12:34 AM This thread has been linked to E46 Fanatics .com:wave: serge_saati 01-30-2010, 10:49 AM My statement was merely an experiment as to how people would react. In response to what you said, the question then is; why do most assholes like driving BMW's? What is it with these cars that assholes tend to like them more than the others? Why the BMW? Not necessary BMW. Some of them like to drive also VW Golf, Civic and Mazda3. They like driving fast car to overtake. I've seen an asshole in BMW only 2 times. Most of them are driving Mazda3. J-Ri 01-30-2010, 10:07 PM This thread has been linked to E46 Fanatics .com:wave: Aww... man, the E46 drivers are the worst. Get those assholes out of here! :rofl: Sorry... couldn't resist! I've got to say, I agree with Serge, people in cheap compact cars are the worst. Probably because they think they're soooo fast and don't really care if they wreck them. Please ignore my signature, I'm actually not one of them! :) akboss 02-01-2010, 09:05 AM Aww... man, the E46 drivers are the worst. Get those assholes out of here! :rofl: Sorry... couldn't resist! I've got to say, I agree with Serge, people in cheap compact cars are the worst. Probably because they think they're soooo fast and don't really care if they wreck them. Please ignore my signature, I'm actually not one of them! :) I think we are learning from this thread that asshole drivers can really drive any car...I have seen my fair share of minivans that blast past me on a high-speed motorway only to cut in front and hit the brakes to make a turn, no signal of course. Personally I have seen quite a few that drive BMW's and, driving my little Mazda, I can only project my assumptions as to why that is. As I indicated earlier, I think it is a level of self-importance that is applied to oneself when you have 'achieved' the level of being able to buy a BMW. I have earned this car, I have the right of way more than other drivers, because I have more power and better control. BS! If we all had a little more concern for the 'other guy' on the road, we would all be much happier drivers. My rule of thumb - whatever you do in a car shouldn't cause someone else to hit the brakes unexpectedly. Whether you are pulling into traffic, merging on the highway, or making a turn off of a motorway - signal, be patient, and we can all share the road - whether you're in a brand-new 750i or an '87 Corolla. The Good Doctor 02-02-2010, 07:38 PM I think we are learning from this thread that asshole drivers can really drive any car truth! Cydonia 02-05-2010, 03:48 AM I agree, BMW drivers are assholes. They're usually middle class people who have over extended themselves to buy a marginal luxury car that breaks down a lot. The stress and their own inadequate nature causes them to act out on other drivers. This is why i decided to but a Porsche. It's a better car, Porsche drivers don't have an attitude problem and they leave A-hole Bimmers in the dust. Basically when you own a Porsche you really don't have a point to prove, unlike drivers of shoddy Bavarisch Motor Werke crap. BMW-ultimate driving machine...LMFAO. akboss 02-05-2010, 08:54 AM I agree, BMW drivers are assholes. They're usually middle class people who have over extended themselves to buy a marginal luxury car that breaks down a lot. The stress and their own inadequate nature causes them to act out on other drivers. This is why i decided to but a Porsche. It's a better car, Porsche drivers don't have an attitude problem and they leave A-hole Bimmers in the dust. Basically when you own a Porsche you really don't have a point to prove, unlike drivers of shoddy Bavarisch Motor Werke crap. BMW-ultimate driving machine...LMFAO. ...sounds like you're trying to prove something about Porsche drivers. serge_saati 02-05-2010, 11:15 AM I don't think that peoples who overtake want to prove something, they just like to do it. Because these kind of persons play frequently Need For Speed most wanted or other racing game. So when they are on the street, their natural reflexes wake up, and they want to overtake and go fast. It's a question of habit. Probably you don't play need for speed a lot so you don't have the reflex of overtake with your Porsche. akboss 02-05-2010, 11:19 AM I don't think that peoples who overtake want to prove something, they just like to do it. Because these kind of persons play frequently Need For Speed most wanted or other racing game. So when they are on the street, their natural reflexes wake up, and they want to overtake and go fast. It's a question of habit. Probably you don't play need for speed a lot so you don't have the reflex of overtake with your Porsche. Need For Speed has nothing to do with the real world. A video game has a joystick and a reset button, real life has head-on collisions, lawsuits and injuries. Smart people leave the aggressive manoeuvres to video games - not saying it isn't fun to pass, but doing it intelligently. serge_saati 02-05-2010, 11:31 AM Yes of course. But if someone play video game all the day, when he exits home he still feel the need of speed. So he can unconsciously overtake other cars like he was playing. w/o crashing, of course. DownToGround 02-05-2010, 03:48 PM maybe they have passing power and enjoy using it.. i know i do.. i cant stand looking at the back of any vehicle for more than 2seconds.. Shpuker 02-06-2010, 03:32 AM I don't think that peoples who overtake want to prove something, they just like to do it. Because these kind of persons play frequently Need For Speed most wanted or other racing game. So when they are on the street, their natural reflexes wake up, and they want to overtake and go fast. It's a question of habit. Probably you don't play need for speed a lot so you don't have the reflex of overtake with your Porsche. You need to lay off the NFS..... and the actual "speed" but thats a different story :p lol If you find your-self getting passed all the time, then you might wana just check the speed limit. And regardless of what you seem to belive, most drivers aren't teenagers playing video games all day trying to get their adrenaline rush by passing you. :runaround: serge_saati 02-06-2010, 10:28 AM If you find your-self getting passed all the time, then you might wana just check the speed limit. And regardless of what you seem to belive, most drivers aren't teenagers playing video games all day trying to get their adrenaline rush by passing you. :runaround: When I get passed on the street, I drive at 55KPH when the speed limit is 50KPH. But I still get passed by Mazda3 and new Civic. These cars always want to go faster. You're right, they are not all teenager. Some are just hurry to go to work. DownToGround 02-08-2010, 02:59 PM i have a couple different cars. i noticed that i drive differently when im in the faster car.. the slower car dosent compare in fun.. so maybe put the beemer driver in a slower car for awhile and see if he gets tired of not being able to pass, maybe then he gives up??? vBulletin®, Copyright ©2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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