Those of us living in the UK would have seen Top Gear last night. Murray walker made the case for the mclaren f1 as the greatest road car ever. What i want to know is, what car was murray driving? It was a standard car with a high downforce kit. It was black with a red stripe and was most likely in britain. Any ideas?
I would also like to know who the professional, showing Murray how the car should be driven, was. He looked very familar, but i couldn't put a name to the face. Perhaps he's the owner?

Sounds like #002 based on the color, the red stripe and the high downforce kit. The car is actually dark grey btw.

I don't know the owner's name, but I believe he's active in the racing community. The car was recently seen at the Spa Ferrari Days in Belgium.

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Originally posted by Peloton25
Sounds like #002 based on the color, the red stripe and the high downforce kit. The car is actually dark grey btw.

I don't know the owner's name, but I believe he's active in the racing community. The car was recently seen at the Spa Ferrari Days in Belgium.

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thats the one i was thinking of

Originally posted by Peloton25
Sounds like #002 based on the color, the red stripe and the high downforce kit. The car is actually dark grey btw.

I don't know the owner's name, but I believe he's active in the racing community. The car was recently seen at the Spa Ferrari Days in Belgium.

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that has to be it

that is it, i have an article on it, i'll scan it soon

mini magic,
did you know that you can edit your post, you don't need to make 3 replies to say the same thing :wink:
Maybe taht you just want a second yellow star under your nickname ? :rolleyes: (just kidding :biggrin: )

Originally posted by jkbon
mini magic,
did you know that you can edit your post, you don't need to make 3 replies to say the same thing :wink:
Maybe taht you just want a second yellow star under your nickname ? :rolleyes: (just kidding :biggrin: )


peloton does it too:biggrin:

Originally posted by mini magic



peloton does it too:biggrin:

monkey see...monkey do.....

:lol::icon16:

Originally posted by mini magic
peloton does it too:biggrin:

Yeah - when I'm attaching images and can't do more than one at a time... :p

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Originally posted by freakray


monkey see...monkey do.....

:lol::icon16:

lol

The guy driving was Duncan Hill. He is the senior customer care engineer at Mclaren Automotive as it is now known. Incidently to answer a question about xp5, it has just been completely restored and will be going on show in the park lane show room before being placed in the museum at the Mclaren Technology Centre. The car looks stunning!

Originally posted by McMercSLR
The guy driving was Duncan Hill. He is the senior customer care engineer at Mclaren Automotive as it is now known. Incidently to answer a question about xp5, it has just been completely restored and will be going on show in the park lane show room before being placed in the museum at the Mclaren Technology Centre. The car looks stunning!

cool, you seem to know a lot so can you answer these questions:

1) MUSEUM!!!!!!!<<!!!!!!!! will it be open to the public

2) what if someone wants to test their car, i thought xp5 was their press car

There done with the business of selling and marketing the cars - they won't be loaning XP5 out anymore. In fact, really only AutoCar was given access to XP5 for a complete road test, most of the other magazines got supervised drives or just a ride in the car with Jonathan Palmer doing the driving.

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does this mean there will be no more big mac in the tag showroom on park lane? also is the museum thing open to the public?

XP5 will be at Park Lane for a while then it will be confined to the museum at Paragon for the rest of its life along with XP1LM. If anything will be in the park lane showroom it will be an SLR. Unfortunately the F1 has had its day as far as marketing goes. All efforts are focused on the SLR. The SLR takes more from the MP-17 than the F1.

Originally posted by McMercSLR
XP5 will be at Park Lane for a while then it will be confined to the museum at Paragon for the rest of its life along with XP1LM. If anything will be in the park lane showroom it will be an SLR. Unfortunately the F1 has had its day as far as marketing goes. All efforts are focused on the SLR. The SLR takes more from the MP-17 than the F1.

WILL IT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? and will xpgt be there?

what's gonna happen to #065?
i presume it's going to be sold by David Clark, so probably a public sale through Taylor and Crawley. Which means, you can visit the car.
Which means: I'm going to London.

The museum will be open to the public. however with Paragon seriously behind schedule...who knows when that will be????

Sorry to bring this back to the top but I just talked to a guy who saw a Koenigsegg in london and he says the silver car in the Park Lane showroom is now been changed for a dark car, I assume this would be XP5? and whats happening with the silver one?

'Segg :)

Cool - try to get photos from him of XP5 in the showroom.

Also, I believe that #65 was sold.

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who sold the car...? was that david clark?

The car in the showroom is indeed XP5. The silver car 065 is back in the workshop to undergo a rebuild and then will be sold. It only has delivery miles on it and is unregistered so offers around £1m are expected.

This is a little off topic but I gotta ask,

McMercSLR, I assume the screen name comes from "McLaren Mercedes SLR"? is that the official name for the car now? I heard that Mercedes would rather people call the car the "Mercedes SLR McLaren" which one is correct?

i thought it was the mercedes mclaren slr

it's a Mercedes built by Mclaren.

from Mercedes web-site : " Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren "

it is indeed Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren. But dont be fooled, its a Mclaren designed car. When the car is launched in september you will all be able to see just how much Mclaren engineering has gone into it. The monocoque and the rest of the chassis really is a work of art.

Thought I would drag this old topic back to the top to announce the owner's name of the F1 that started this thread. The black one with the red stripe and high downforce kit (#002) shown in the Top Gear episode is owned by a Brit named Tony Smith. As I stated when the thread was new, he is active in the vintage Ferrari racing community in Europe. I'm not positive that he is the original owner, but he should still be the current one. The info I'm drawing from is about 1 yr old now.

I'll post a few pics of the car later to refresh people's memory.

BTW: I see now after reading through this thread where we got the speculation that an SLR might be displayed in McLaren's London showroom. I wonder what ever happened to the guy who was providing that info - looking back at it everything he said, he was dead accurate. :cool:

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Tony Smith is the manager of the band Genesis and Phil Collins.
Ill post some pics of Xp1LM, XP5 and Le Mans winner 59 together soon.

Wow - you're back!! :cool:

Can't wait to see those photos you mention. :naughty:

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Tony Smith is the manager of the band Genesis and Phil Collins.
Ill post some pics of Xp1LM, XP5 and Le Mans winner 59 together soon.


Welcome back to the forums.

Why away for so long?

I'll post a few pics of the car later to refresh people's memory.

http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2004-4-15/2282069-Peloton25b.jpg

http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2004-4-15/2281951-Peloton25a.jpg

There a bit large - I hope no one minds. If so let me know and I'll resize the embeded shots to make them clickable for these large ones.

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I think thats INTERNATION MOTORSPORTS MCLAREN. They wanted 1.25 in change for it.

Im really starting to like the HDF, I wonder if any owner has opted for a removal? Probably not after a nice bill in the mail by MCL.
-Mike:aus:

Pictures can never do F1's justice but this car just looks fantastic in the carbon.

is it carbon? i thought it was called dorchester grey..

it is dorchester grey

Damn damn...although i am a lambo fan..but i have always respected the mclaren, and always loved its performance that is outstanding..my God this dark grey one with the downforce kit is a true ground-to-ground missile..my God what a glorious majestical and brutal power and beauty this fukker packs...wooo....sheesh guys,,it says speed even when its stopping....ya..this is Mclaren......damn Tiff Needell is one hell lucke guy..he tested them many times...shit i wanna be in his place.... :banghead:

....and so the bad news is that this car is not chassis #002 as has always been suspected. :uhoh:

I found out from the same source who confirmed the owner's name that this is actually chassis #020 and was originally painted blue prior to the refit with the High Downforce Kit. He wasn't able to confirm that Tony has always owned the car, so I can't be certain if the kit was added on a change of ownership. Maybe someone else here can address that?

Anyway, this info came as a bit of a surprise to me given how close this car appears to the original look of chassis #002. I trust the source I got this info from that he wouldn't lead me astray so if you're keeping track it's time to update the records on this one and I apologize for the misinformation earlier.

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Well I did say I didn't think it was 002.

Mind you, I didn't say it was 020 either...

Well I did say I didn't think it was 002.

When I got this new piece of info, I recalled that you had said that.

Mind you, I didn't say it was 020 either...

Well, would you say that it is #020? :naughty: ;) :biggrin:

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dammit. Now i have to re-arrange all my photos :(

oh well.

btw, i was going to post this but i couldn't be sure. If you look really closely in some pics you will see that there isn't Mr. Murrays autograph near the ignition. I didn't post it becuase its hard to tell but now i'm pretty sure there isn't

i also have a hard time believing this is blue...

http://e30evo.com/mclaren f1 - purple - blurry.jpg

dammit. Now i have to re-arrange all my photos :(

oh well.

Here you go man...

http://www.cayneshousewares.com/images/products/333955.jpg

hehe

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thanks. ;)


edit: thats actually a pretty cool tissue box :biggrin:

Hmm hard to say ill c if I can get there email. It is a dealer who has that car dont forget if thats int motorsports Mclaren which I'm very positive it is. considering it the exact color and body style.:iceslolan

What are you jabbering about?

"International Motorsports McLaren" :confused:

Care to share a link or something? I wasn't aware that this car was for sale at all.

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A wile back a very large dealer called international motor sports have a Mclaren 4 sale back 2 years ago so im not quite sure. I believe the priceing was around 750,000 euro's but that was a wile ago.

I do kno 1 thing they have various varity of cars for sale. lambos ferraris etc. You might recognize them they always take pics of there car from this 1 spot in the dealer ship it has grey on the top yellow stripe and red on the bottom with black backround lettering that says international motors.

maybe he's thinking of the pics of #072 in front of the famous motorcars international wall , because it's also a black HDF kit mclaren....

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maybe he's thinking of the pics of #072 in front of the famous motorcars international wall , because it's also a black HDF kit mclaren....

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God damn your good... :bigthumb:

maybe he's thinking of the pics of #072 in front of the famous motorcars international wall , because it's also a black HDF kit mclaren....

^_^

I thought about that initially, but because he had listed the price in Euros, I figured the dealership would have been from from Europe. Silly me.... :banghead: :grinno:

When I read that part about the photos always being in the same spot, I knew it too.

Here's #072, and the dealership as was mentioned and can be seen, is Motorcars International:

http://a3.cpimg.com/image/CD/0E/19697613-c8f1-01C20152-.jpg

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/E0/0F/19697632-a4fe-01C20152-.jpg

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Holy #$%^ wow I have seen those pics in 7 years. Those were the first mclaren pics I ever saw. :smile: Thanx for rekindling my childhood memories lol. Thats the place.

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/E0/0F/19697632-a4fe-01C20152-.jpg

Peloton I think I might need a box of tissues too. :rolleyes: And the pics I saw to years ago was something else a different car.

JC - From time to time, do you think you could turn your signature off?

I really don't see the need for that Skyline image 6 times on one page in this thread. It gets annoying.

P.S.: Borrow a tissue from mini magic, I gave him the whole box. :p

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JC - From time to time, do you think you could turn your signature off?

I really don't see the need for that Skyline image 6 times on one page in this thread. It gets annoying.

P.S.: Borrow a tissue from mini magic, I gave him the whole box. :p

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LOL no prob

hell no, i'm keeping the box. Its awesome :D

hell no, i'm keeping the box. Its awesome :D
U selffish bastard lol.:evillol:

Hello,

do you know this plate : "W35I HPM" is it #002 plate ?
Do you have pics of #002 please ?

Thanks
Phil

I don't have any photos that can be confirmed as #002 with it wearing a plate. The photos I do have are scans from the Autocar book on the F1 road car, and they were taken shortly after the car was built in 1993. Whether it still looks the same is hard to know.

I can tell you that the car in those old shots looks almost exactly the same as the car we thought was #002, however it lacks the high downforce kit, since that had not even been thought about at that time.

As for that registration plate, a "W" plate seems kind of odd to me. Unless the car was replated at some point, I think #002 (assuming it wears British plates) should have an "M" plate on it.

Anyway, I take it you have a photo of this 'W35I HPM' car, so feel free to post it when you get a chance. We can pick it apart from there.

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Hello,

thank you Erik, I would like to know which cars are on the pic I have before post it, but it is very difficult to me to be sure !

I guess it will be a real discussion on our forum !

Let's go !

Phil